GM Track Car?
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Melting Slicks
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GM Track Car?
After watching the D24 and the Porsche 911 Cup dominate the GT Class, and knowing someone can go to their local dealer and order a 911 Cup, or 911 RSR, it makes me go back to the old question of why GM doesn't do this. I think I remember hearing the P cars are made on the same factory line as their street counterparts, on an "as ordered" basis, so its not like they are making them and hoping they sell, or having to force dealers to take them (Volt).
This would be so much nicer than having to buy a street Corvette, hacking it up and rebuilding.
It seems to be working for Porsche. Their cars have become the foundation for road racing, and I think this is one of the reasons.
Your thoughts?
This would be so much nicer than having to buy a street Corvette, hacking it up and rebuilding.
It seems to be working for Porsche. Their cars have become the foundation for road racing, and I think this is one of the reasons.
Your thoughts?
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Ford has a few track cars to choose from too.
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=35883
http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=35883
Focus ST-R is the first global vehicle to join the turnkey race car family, which includes theMustang FR500C, Mustang FR500S, Mustang Cobra Jet, Boss 302R and Boss 302S
Melting Slicks
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any body with $750,000 can get a RSR 
and another $xxx,xxx to run it for the season. I agree they should build the z06X then give support to private teams instead of trying to keep them down. I have seen Martin Snow send data to Porsche motorsports even just running a local club race and getting help
and another $xxx,xxx to run it for the season. I agree they should build the z06X then give support to private teams instead of trying to keep them down. I have seen Martin Snow send data to Porsche motorsports even just running a local club race and getting help
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Last event of the season at VIR, I had the pleasure of parking beside a fellow from Washington state. He had a motor coach and custom trailer and was packing a new Porsche GT3 Cup Car. He said that Porsche only sells the GT 3 cup cars to racing teams and his "team" arranged for him to buy the car direct from Porsche and he was in the process of trying to qualify for the team. The car cost $234,000 and customization was an additional $40,000. I should also mention that he flew his Porsche trained mechanic in from Vancouver, BC to work with him. This was his first year of tracking anything and by happy hour on days two, he ran a 1:58 in traffic.
So if ya ever wondered how the other half lives.....
Jim
So if ya ever wondered how the other half lives.....
Jim
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Last event of the season at VIR, I had the pleasure of parking beside a fellow from Washington state. He had a motor coach and custom trailer and was packing a new Porsche GT3 Cup Car. He said that Porsche only sells the GT 3 cup cars to racing teams and his "team" arranged for him to buy the car direct from Porsche and he was in the process of trying to qualify for the team. The car cost $234,000 and customization was an additional $40,000. I should also mention that he flew his Porsche trained mechanic in from Vancouver, BC to work with him. This was his first year of tracking anything and by happy hour on days two, he ran a 1:58 in traffic.
So if ya ever wondered how the other half lives.....
Jim
So if ya ever wondered how the other half lives.....
Jim
However judging by the LG lawsuit, GM doesn't want anyone to get credit for going fast in Corvette's but themselves.
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Melting Slicks
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I'm talking about something like the ACR-X.
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and a correction on the RSR, Melanie Snow just text me: 400,000 more for a RSR than her 2011 gt3 cup so its only 650,000 or so
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The closest thing was the Callaway GT3 cars ran in Europe. They were nearly stock Z06's with FIA cages, and they were very competitive in 2010. However, there was no sign of them last year, as I've been catching up on the races via Youtube.
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If you're talking about a car that's packaged and ready to race in Grand Am GT or similar, think again. Brakes suitable for running the Daytona 24 run $15-$20k without spares by themselves. A race motor built to run that type of race is a minimum of $40k. Think about the cost of a ZR1, then put in a real motor, real race brakes, a cage, braided stainless lines for everything, a legal fuel cell, real shocks, FULL CF body, and you'll be at that $175k or more.
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any body with $750,000 can get a RSR and another $xxx,xxx to run it for the season. I agree they should build the z06X then give support to private teams instead of trying to keep them down. I have seen Martin Snow send data to Porsche motorsports even just running a local club race and getting help
and another $xxx,xxx to run it for the season. I agree they should build the z06X then give support to private teams instead of trying to keep them down. I have seen Martin Snow send data to Porsche motorsports even just running a local club race and getting help
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For what you're talking about, I would expect to pay around $175K from GM.
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GM factory racing? Right here:
http://www.chevroletbtcc.co.uk/
Chevrolet by Chevrolet BTCC, on Flickr
http://www.chevroletbtcc.co.uk/
Chevrolet by Chevrolet BTCC, on Flickr
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There was talk of building the ZO6X ( by Pratt& Miller again) several times. and some talk of the Tom B special, stripped out bare bones white GS, But never happened do to volume needs to make the production profitable. One of the Top Corvette Engineers was in Raleigh Jan 14 and we did asked him these questions.
the C7 development is talking all the time now.
here are some hints, After the 2012 Z06 and the 2012 GS vert with a 427 production stopping in May the 427 will go away. Not to come back in the C7. Gooberment fuel regs.
Dont look for the same models of the C6, GS, Z06, or ZR1 in the C7 at any time
C7 is a jump in design like the C4 to the C5 vs an evolution of the C5 to the C6.
Increase in HP:WT in base model and increase in fuel mileage too
the C7 development is talking all the time now.
here are some hints, After the 2012 Z06 and the 2012 GS vert with a 427 production stopping in May the 427 will go away. Not to come back in the C7. Gooberment fuel regs.
Dont look for the same models of the C6, GS, Z06, or ZR1 in the C7 at any time
C7 is a jump in design like the C4 to the C5 vs an evolution of the C5 to the C6.
Increase in HP:WT in base model and increase in fuel mileage too
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