Bill32

Were you watching the in car? Because what's shown here is just the aftermath.

jcsperson

The key. That was the line all day long. It doesn't suddenly change.

Bill32

Passes for position in a road race are very..........very rarely made by following the racing line. That's not how it's done.

Richard Ames

If any pass contact is made it Is side by side and not a T Bone and behind the door to push the rear of the car. It was a foul by the 912 to better the 911 position. At Sebring they did it too early and still lost. IMSA needs to take action against the spoiled Porsche Brats.

Whis9

Agreed, not sure if Bill32 had too many cocktails during the race.

dvandentop

regardless just blows all the way around

Bill32

And your racing experience is ? Please post your resume.

Bill32

Do you have proof of that?

I'm not saying the Porsche was guilt free but if a car in front of me baubles like that I'm certainly going to move off line and see if a pass can be attempted.

Again, did the Porsche come in too hot, yea. But it was an attempt to set up a pass.

Richard Ames

You would actually TBone somebody to pass your avatar could not take it. Sorry but I cannot get your drift.

Lawdogg

Porsche had no chance of completing that pass. Vette looks to be right where it is supposed to be. Porsche is on a T-bone line.

jcsperson

No doubt, but there has to be room. There was not only no room, he also didn't have position, and that is not an overtaking area on that track. Look at the tire tracks. Milner is on the very inside of every tire track through that turn. You couldn't put a go kart between him and the barrier.

promocop

Im telling you, I'm watching this and I just FEEL the P cars going to do something and they did. For sure, that was a nasty and unsportanlike move by them...where is protests from team management??

Bill32

Have you watched the in car vid from the 912?
I'm just askng from a perspective stand point.

Donny Brass

IMSA: Makowiecki takes blame for Corvette clash


Porsche North America racing driver Fred Makowiecki accepted blame for the late-race hit that spun Corvette Racing's Tommy Milner and handed victory to the sister Porsche 911 RSR. "The collision in the penultimate lap was my fault," the Frenchman (ABOVE) said after placing seventh in IMSA's BUBBA burger Sports Car Grand Prix at Long Beach. "I was a touch too optimistic heading into the corner."

a touch ??? is that a subtle admission of intent ?

jcsperson

Yup. It's right here:

80atez

Even if he would have made it in front of the corvette before the apex, how would he have made the turn? He'd be heading straight for the far wall, braking hard, and blocking the vette. How is that any better than driving the racing line and blocking the clearly faster Porsches?

Driving on a track that doesn't permit much passing in the turns is no justification for stupid driving.

No matter what any driver says, everyone knows that subconsciously we all know that the inside rear driver will fare far better than the front car when they touch, so the stupidity twists into cunning to the driver seeing red...

Bill32

AS I said twice before, yea, the Porsche came in too hot.

But @20 seconds, the Corvette starts to loose traction under braking, the Porsche starts moving to the right looking for an opening but he was going too fast.

If the Corvette didn't have that bauble, he would have been a few feet further up the track, might have been hit anyway might not.

If the Corvette would have had to make one more correction, the Porsche may have had an opportunity to present himself and they could have had a good ol drag race to the next corner.

Donny Brass

So, if the Corvette does not bobble, the "too hot" Porsche hits the corner of the Vette and completes the pass instead of spinning the Corvette ?

the Porsche was out of control and was not making that corner even if the Vette was not there........

promocop

IMSA needs to penalize the P team for the next race. CLEARLY THE PORSCHE was headed to the wall...

sdurg24

Well I guess that would be the standard Porsche defense statement and everybody is entitled to that but.........IMHO it sure looks like the kind of practiced take down move they teach at police driving schools and that coupled with the recent past history of Porsche is more than highly suspect. Is this how IMSA RACING will be handled in the future? Why shouldn't Corvette do EXACTLY THE SAME THING next time out? What is to prevent them from doing just that? Certainly not IMSA OFFICIALS. On the other hand it has gotten NASCAR high ratings in the past along with the inevitable soap opera continuation for who knows how long. Not why I watch road racing.