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Old 02-28-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mattastick
They can jump off the front of the chassis, if needed.
THAT I understand. What I worry about is climbing out, OVER the halo, onto the front of the car (which isn't very wide).

Have a good one,
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:48 AM
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Green flag at 12 h , snow at half past twelve, rain a lot of at 3 pm. It's ridiculous, you can see the board



Boullier, McLaren, is very angry against Ferrari and Wiliams : ''We are paying to be here and the track has been reserved for F1 for two weeks anyway, so we had the opportunity to postpone this Wednesday day, especially since we know it will be better on Sunday and the track was free that day. Today we're simply losing money because of selfish interest."
Old 02-28-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mattastick
Maybe STR shouldn't put so much stuff on the halo. I've watched one of the drivers lower themselves in by the halo (Bottas maybe?), and egress the same way.
If egress is going to be a problem, the FIA has to do something about it.
Closed cockpits anyone?
They can jump off the front of the chassis, if needed. Any hybrid using chassis for ground could run into an issue like Davidson at Le Mans a couple years ago, after he got taken out by the Ferrari. The safety crews couldn't approach him because the hybrid system hadn't been discharged. He had suffered something in his back, and was unable to extract himself from the car, but until the hybrid system was shut down, he was on his own. A very scary proposition, IMO, but such are the dangers of racing. I think the indycar screen is a much better solution to the safety question, but that's just me.
I wasn't aware of this issue involving Davidson.
IMO, that's unacceptable as a safety hazard.
Fire has always been a danger in racing, if hybrids systems are an ADDITIONAL threat to lives we need to go back to the pre-hybrid era.
I'm sorry...auto racing is dangerous enough as it is, adding to the risk rubs me the wrong way.
Racing is great, but it's not something worth a life.
Old 02-28-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Fire has always been a danger in racing, if hybrids systems are an ADDITIONAL threat to lives we need to go back to the pre-hybrid era. I'm sorry...auto racing is dangerous enough as it is, adding to the risk rubs me the wrong way. Racing is great, but it's not something worth a life.
Well, they've dealt with the safety issue in the past with the driver being able to jump clear of the car; that seems to happen 1-2 times per season. Now, with the halo, that's gotten more complicated.

And, as far as hybrids go, keep that high energy storage issue in mind (100+ volts and high amps) next time you see a hybrid in an accident on the road. Suckers can kill 1st responders if they don't have the proper insulating gear.

Something to think about, WHILE you have a good one,
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End of the session 3. Last day tomorrow.

Old 02-28-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
If egress is going to be a problem, the FIA has to do something about it.
Closed cockpits anyone?
I wasn't aware of this issue involving Davidson.
IMO, that's unacceptable as a safety hazard.
Fire has always been a danger in racing, if hybrids systems are an ADDITIONAL threat to lives we need to go back to the pre-hybrid era.
I'm sorry...auto racing is dangerous enough as it is, adding to the risk rubs me the wrong way.
Racing is great, but it's not something worth a life.

That's the accident. You can see a bit of the caution from the cornerworkers after the actual accident in the video, where they're standing close, but also minding their distance. The cars are supposed to have a way for track workers to de-energize the hybrid systems, but in an accident like that, there's no telling what is still connected or not. IIRC, they had to send someone from the team out in a car to de-energize it. Same thing happened with an Audi at some point as well, I believe. F1 cars have a light either in the T-bar or above the driver's head that tells the status of the hybrid system. And it's probably why they bring their own safety crews with them wherever they go (less training, more experts in these highly complicated cars).
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Originally Posted by mattastick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkfJXlsZPXI

... F1 cars have a light either in the T-bar or above the driver's head that tells the status of the hybrid system...

Exact
Old 02-28-2018, 04:16 PM
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We need to find a better way to de-energize these hybrids.
I don't know how...I'll leave it to the engineers.




What a waste of a day.
What can the teams really learn with track temps so low?
It isn't like they will see these conditions during the season...
Old 02-28-2018, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
What a waste of a day.
What can the teams really learn with track temps so low?
It isn't like they will see these conditions during the season...
The teams proposed moving today's test day to Monday, since the track is already rented for 2 straight weeks anyway, but 2 teams (Ferrari and STR, IIRC) blocked the idea. I find it funny, since Hartley made an installation lap and none of the Ferrari drivers touched the track, that they would block an extra day of testing, but such is life. I would think this will help the teams that have huge sim budgets and have better understanding of their cars already, but time will tell who this bites and who it helps.
Old 02-28-2018, 08:24 PM
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I dont think it was a straight block.

Ferrari had a prior commitment with a sponsor for that day
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A view at 11h30 am GMT +1
Track open non stop from 9am to 6pm
Air 10°C
Track 15 °C

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RBR hasn't turned since this morning, just laps to control. Persistent hydraulic pressure problem on the RB14
Old 03-01-2018, 09:10 AM
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Situation at 3pm : RBR and FI, few laps. Reliability for McLaren ahead and Toro Rosso Honda

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15 mn before 5pm Hamilton in medium : best time of the (short) week. The asphalt of Catalunya is new, F1 is the first user.


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The end and Hamilton best time of this first weekend testings



Technical problems for RBR + of track of verstappen in turn 12 in the gravels. Next week of testings on tuesday, 4 days.

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So...you think you can drive in the wet?

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One of the big topics for this year's Silly Season will be where Daniel Ricciardo will be in 2019.
IMO, he has the skill and smarts to be a WDC in the right car.
Vote for where you think he will go:
https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2018/...cciardo-in-f1/

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Old 03-03-2018, 06:35 PM
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it would be great to see him in SF or Merc.

IMO, he got pretty pissed when RBR announced Max as a long term project.

I think he wants out.
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Originally Posted by D K
it would be great to see him in SF or Merc.
It sure would be.

He is one of my fav drivers.
IMO, he has the best personality of all the drivers in F1.
If there was ONE driver I would like to party with in Vegas, it would be DR.
No matter what, you know you would have fun.
IMO, he got pretty pissed when RBR announced Max as a long term project.

I think he wants out.
Agreed.
The bottom line is Max is a once-in-a-generation talent.
FWIW, I would not be surprised if he shatters all of the records before he finally hangs up his helmet.
In spite of that, DR could very easily be a WDC...he has all of the tools.
I do hope he gets a couple before he tries NASCAR.
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Ya Max is a talent, but his personality sux and he is a total nerd.

I bet a team with DR would be a lot more fun.



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