I'm replacing the engine in my 67 with the correct casting block. I've owned the car since 1973 and replaced the original 327/300 due to cracked webbings. As the years went by I added lots n lots of options, even factory A/C! I need help with the correct engine I.D. stamping. Car Vin # 20162, A/C, P/S, 327/350HP. Not up to mischief here, just want to get it right after all this effort. Thanks from Long Island.

 

Here's my version! 7120162 V05??HP P/s not P/B. Sorry! Agreed? (Car born early June).

 

Agreed.

 

Thx!

 

The only stamping I'm doing is with Chrismas cards. This is the reason I would never pay more for the numbers matching car. Either it is or isn't. The only reason to restamp is to try and add value. Who can you trust these days? It's a hobby... drive and enjoy it. Life's too short for show and tell.

 

I've owned this car since 1973. True, there will someday be another owner who will value this car for different reasons than I. That's because he will be able to tell people it was his Dad's car. Good enough reason for me to make it right as a restored car. Have a great day!

 

I've owned this car since 1973. True, there will someday be another owner who will value this car for different reasons than I. That's because he will be able to tell people it was his Dad's car. Good enough reason for me to make it right, as a restored car. Have a great day!

 

Did you keep the original motor? It would tell you what you need to know..What is the casting date on the replacement block? Your car was done about June 5, so the deck should be backed up 4-5 working days. 0529? (my estimate/no expert) The casting date on the block should about E217. You can get info from like cars to get the date spread. I have no issue with stamping, NCRS seems not to mind as long as you are restoring the car to original build. Making it a L-79 would be an issue. I think you could question just about any car having the "original engine". If only cars could talk.... Kurt

 

When I did Model "A''s, we always used FORD Script replacement. Same deal here, only much bigger Ego's and dollars. lol. Anyway, I'm just having fun and appreciate having this Forum to share thoughts on. You obviously put a bit of time and interest into this topic, so here's the final decision. V0524HP (a Weds.). ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ time. THX!
Block cast on E167.

 

Well, since stampings are simply a cosmetic feature, it seems no different than repainting a car or replacing a piece of pitted trim.

If one wants to restore the car to look and feel original then how can there be harm in replacing the stampings?

I see no arguments about replicating chalk marks on chassis or body numbers. People put replacement batteries, tires, belts, radiators, overflow tanks, glass... all with "restamped numbers". How is that any different?

Of course, every restorative procedure is intended to add value to the car. What's wrong with that?

 

If you are replacing same part for same part, and not changing what the car originally came from the factory, I see no problem with restamping the block pad. I do have a problem with changing trim tags, vin tags, or changing what was factory original, say a 327 car to a BB 427 car...that is just wrong.

Many of these cars were beat up really bad in the 70's and the orginal engines are turning into sand. To replace a 327 with a 327 exactly as it came from the factory, in called now a "Reproduction" Engine, ans should be stated. I have no problem. After all we are here to preserve these cars as well as enjoy them....

 

I disagree, but then again, this is a topic we can agree to disagree on.

And I cannot understand why original poster is interested in restamping his pad unless he is planning to participate in NCRS-type events (even then you can leave the pad bare and still top flight).

Well, I can think of one reason.

As for "just restamping for personal reasons" - If you don't have the orignal block in there, how can it make you feel better if you have the non-original block in there but you restamped it to make it look like the original block - it surely is not a cosmetic issue. And it is not the same thing as buying a surge tank with the proper date to mimic what was on there originally - privately restamping a VIN on a replacement block, given the enhancement to the car's resale value based on the value of having the original engine in the car, is a legal issue in my book.

And here, the issue is compounded by the desire to restamp the pad to match up with the current configuration of the car, which leads to the {fraudelent?} conclusion that certain options like A/C were original to the car, when such was not the case (not unlike dressing up what was a 300 hp car as a 340 hp L76 with a NOM and restamping the pad accordingly), is that any different from putting a BB in a SB car and restamping the pad to match?

 

The current owner may be ethical and have good intentions, but due to unknown circumstances, may sell the car disclosing to the new owner that the Vette was not originally a 350 A/C car. The problem is, what will the next owner do? Is he as ethical as the current owner, or is he going to profit through unethical methods by misrepresenting the Vette when he sells it? Who knows? And we have another "original" fruadulent Vette in the hobby. I see no problem with restamping the block to reflect the "original" configuration of the vehicle.

 

Gee Guys, I am really surprised at the different views that have surfaced on this issue. Bottom line to all of this, buyer beware! Amazing factoid; lots of cars other than Vettes where owned by little old ladies who only drove them on the highway going to church on sunday! They're all over, just go to your local used car dealership. Betcha he has one. The most truthful statement made on this thread was that the "Pro" dealers are the one's screwing up the hobby portion of our cars. Their favorite trick is out of state sales. Thanks to all! I'm going out to the garage and stamp my fraudulant engine! lol. P.S. I've owned these cars since 1963. None of this stress was ever evident back then or through the majority of the years.

 

what you do with your own car in the privacy of your own garage is certainly your business and your business alone; you can restamp your pad in purple, Times Roman font if you wish or you can borrow a real GM pad gang stamp and do it so carefully that it lloks just like the plant did it - not my business nor my concern. I only have concerns when, as another poster stated, that car makes it into the resale market, and the story (I also have no doubt of your honest intentions) of how the car is a restamp gets lost - and it ends up getting sold as numbers-matching, and some buyer pays more for the car based on this falsehood.

yeah, and none of this mattered back in 1980 when I had a chance to buy a C2 for cheap (and blew it) but NOW original engines add a significant amount to the market value of these cars

as for your orignal qustion, I agree that the pad suffix should be "HP" for a L79 PS AC car (all L79s were MT); as for the date of engine assembly to be shown on the pad, precede the birthday by about one weeks I guess, but you are gonna need to do something about that block casting date I bet . . . . . If you end up restamping the pad with an engine assembly date prior to the block casting date (likely, since you put a block in there after the 1973 purchase) or too far ahead of the casting date (perhaps you found an early 67 cast '657 block) it's gonna look more than a little phoney . . . .

 

Block Cast on May 6,1967 (E67), Built on Weds. May 24, (0524), V0524HP. Over and OUT! lol Unless someone thinks this is wrong. Aghhhhhhhhh

 

I say "GO FOR IT". The majority of "numbers matching" C1's & C2's are restamps anyway. With the high dollars that these cars demand, there's lots of money in making & documenting a bogus car. When these cars were worth nothing (60's & 70's), an original motor meant absolutley nothing. As for C1's, I remember people couldn't wait to blow up their 283's so they could put a 327 and C2 owners wanted a 350 (unless you owned a BB in the 70's and wanted a smaller engine). Enjoy whatever you end up doing. It's YOUR car, not theirs.

 

Yo! Fire Guy! Well put!

 

well, that block you put in there after you got the car in the early 70's was well-chosen! peace be with you . . .

 

Thank You, Sir! Todays thought for me is this, what a shame that we can take a beautiful piece of automobilia, (My 1967 Coupe), and attempt to take it back in time to make it as I would have liked years ago. That said, as is all too often the case, those folks with selfish motives, ie: profit, have cast a long shadow on people such as myself who is just sincerely trying to enjoy thier own project!