I'm sorry but stamping a few numbers on an engine pad has nothing to do with "trying to enjoy their own project". It has everything to do with someone (not necessarily you) passing the car off as "original engine". I’ll never understand why someone would stamp numbers on the “wrong” engine other than to defraud or pass it off as “original engine”. Is it so someone can peer into your engine compartment and say “wow, it’s the original engine?”. Personally, I never look at the pads when I’m looking at other Corvettes. I could care less. Looks mean everything to me, numbers mean nothing.

Just my OPINION..nothing more..

 

And the debate rages on...

Somehow the whole "numbers matching" thing has taken on a perverted life of its own.

People with no intention of ever owning a Corvette know all about the matching numbers. It is the most often asked question.

It is as if NOTHING ELSE matters anymore.

This and the oddballs that slip their fingers up your fenders (as if they have that right). What would one do if a stranger came up to your WIFE and ran his fingers up her skirt?

So, as the issue of primary importance in the Corvette world is the "numbers" why shouldn't an owner be afforded the privilege of making sure his numbers "match" ?

There are probably only 1% of vintage Corvettes that are all there, as they WERE.

The car is what it IS. Who cares what it WAS?

 

Nicely put! Who's next? lol

 

Well, a friend of mine sold a 63 to someone on this board. I drove it home for him. 300hp car which I noticed is now being described as a 340 car. Hmmmm??

 

Well, I know for sure that isn't me !

(since my car came in boxes and hasn't been on the road since 1979)

 

not gonna touch that

 

Take a look the NCRS board today. There is a discussion about an 1967 coupe that sold this Jan. B/J for 163K. This same car (VIN matchs) was advertized two years ago as a NOM small block for sale at 23,9K. Amazing what a new motor, interior color and fabric is worth today, to say nothing of the all new "correct documentation" that now exists for this car.
I am not throwing rocks here, just pointing out one direction stamping can lead to. Bill

 

have a It's only a number

 

I really don't see any issues here.. I was looking at buyig a car from a forum member who plainly stated that the engine was NOT original, but he went the "extra" distance to have it stamped... No problem (and I shoulda bought the car.. ) Those of you who are stating that you don't think he will pass it off as original, but he could sell it as such are just tip toeing around and calling him a liar... All of you who have replaced ANYTHING on your cars should not be throwing stones... Your cars are not original either.. Do whatever makes you happy and enjoy the car...

/joe

 

not true, no one is tip toeing around the liar word here, it is when our honest man puts the car back into the market, even with honest disclosure, and the car gets flipped and flipped and . . . the truth gets seperated from the car, and it is numbers matching and then you, or I, have to go to great lengths to decide if the #s matching claim is true, because there is an extra ~25% built into the sales price based on the #s claim. And so it goes, to quote Vonnegut.

 

Where could I go with this I have no issue with restamping any engine, If it's the correct date and it can be, who's to say the guy on the line at GM could or couldn't have stamped the block you just bought or another If you go to E-bay and look at what "ORIGNAL" parts are selling for you know there are a lot of false restoring going on The only "ORIGINAL" cars out there (and this is my personal opinon) are ones that have not been touched, I think they call them survivors

 

I have seen people go crazy, sifting through used parts to put on their car to claim them as original surviviors.

At Pomona Swap Meet, I've seen people buying used upholstery to replace their worn out seats. Especially seat covers from coupes to go on convertibles.

Is this not a LIE also? I'm sure they'll be telling the next buyer, "It's all original".

Does "original" mean original to the CAR, or original FACTORY parts and equipment?

If a man installs a replacement (re-stamped) correct engine that came from Chevrolet, built to all Chevrolet standards with all the correct parts and fittings, isn't that still "original" ??

It's not like they're putting a FORD engine in there and calling it a CHEVY 427 !

What's FAKE? What's REAL?

Are the pistons, rings, pins, lifters, and all the internal parts "original" ?? Could you prove they're not?

No one cares if the heads, manifold, starter and all the accessories originally came on THAT particular car. I understand that they should be the correct parts and if date coded, should match.

So the one part that is sacrosanct is the cylinder block. One part out of thousands.

Using this theory, a man could replace EVERY part on the car except the vin tag and the engine block and claim it as "ALL ORIGINAL".

 

Well yup, I guess I see your point.. Once its sold, I can no longer control what it's represented as.. But I would think that could be true for many parts and not just engine blocks...

Have a good weekend everyone...

/joe