Replacing 1965 Dash Harness
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From: Calhoun, GA_______ Let It Rock
I am SO glad that you mentioned it. I just ordered the harness from Lectric Limited and INCLUDED a flasher with the order 
It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"
Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
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From: Southeast Missouri
Originally Posted by Grey Ghost
I am SO glad that you mentioned it. I just ordered the harness from Lectric Limited and INCLUDED a flasher with the order It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"
Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
The new harness won't come with a holder for the flasher, but they're readily available, Long Island Corvette, for example.
Do a quick search, I believe JohnZ did a recent post on the various bulbs and their usage for the instrument cluster. May be on the "other" forum if you don't find it here!! Also, some of the vendor's catalogs show the bulb types and usage for mid-years.
Burning Brakes
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From: Leavenworth Washington
Interior bulbs
1816 Instrument Panel Lights 10 ea
1816 Directional signal lights 2 ea
1816 Clock light 2 ea
1816 Radio 1ea
90 Courtesy light 3ea
1445 Ignition switch light 1 ea
1445 High Beam Indicator light 1 ea
1445 Cigarette Lighter 1 ea
1893 Glove box light 1 ea
1893 Heater / radio control light
257 Parking Brake Alarm Light 1 ea
257 Headlight Position Alarm Light 1 ea
Think that's most of em.
Geek
1816 Instrument Panel Lights 10 ea
1816 Directional signal lights 2 ea
1816 Clock light 2 ea
1816 Radio 1ea
90 Courtesy light 3ea
1445 Ignition switch light 1 ea
1445 High Beam Indicator light 1 ea
1445 Cigarette Lighter 1 ea
1893 Glove box light 1 ea
1893 Heater / radio control light
257 Parking Brake Alarm Light 1 ea
257 Headlight Position Alarm Light 1 ea
Think that's most of em.
Geek
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From: Westport CT
Originally Posted by Grey Ghost
I am SO glad that you mentioned it. I just ordered the harness from Lectric Limited and INCLUDED a flasher with the order It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"
Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
It's one of those things...I thought, hmm that looks odd and continued on instead of stopping and saying, "Thats not right, something is wrong here"Will the new harness have a holder for the flasher ?
How will I know which type bulb goes into what socket on the harness (for the cluster) ? Most of them have solid grey wires, but some have a different type bulb...when I replaced the gauges, I replaced the bulbs. But, I removed 1 bulb at a time and replaced with the same type bulb. The sockets appeared to look the same and they had solid grey wires. I do have a service manual that had an excellent picture of the cluster and wiring diagram. But, I don't remember if it specified which type bulb for what function...
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From: Washington Michigan
This is an old photo, but it shows the (yellow plastic) turn signal flasher in a '67, snapped into the spring clip that's attached to the radio side panel; the 12-ga. brown wire to it is HOT any time the key is on, and comes off a 6-way splice internal to the harness that's fed from the Accessory terminal on the ignition switch. That splice also feeds power to the wiper motor, washer pump, voltage regulator, heater blower switch, and the radio.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Sandia Park NM
1965 Dash Harness
I've read with great interest all the comments on this subject.
I purchased a 65 in 2004 that was a kit car, somebody else had started taking it apart so I was told, and everything except the chassis was in boxs.
Well not everything, but that's ok, the price was right at 15 thousand, since I planned on doing a complete rebuild and update.
The body is now back on the chassis and I'm getting ready to work on the interior. The instrument panel will be sent to send to Jason this month to be refurbished. I did get a lot of new parts which include a new factory wiring harness.
My plan is to install the instrument panel in the dash before I put the whole dash back, since it was removed before I bought the car. Is their any reason this would make the install more completed?.
Any thought on this.
Dennis
Palm Desert Ca. They say it's going to be 80 today.
I purchased a 65 in 2004 that was a kit car, somebody else had started taking it apart so I was told, and everything except the chassis was in boxs.
Well not everything, but that's ok, the price was right at 15 thousand, since I planned on doing a complete rebuild and update.
The body is now back on the chassis and I'm getting ready to work on the interior. The instrument panel will be sent to send to Jason this month to be refurbished. I did get a lot of new parts which include a new factory wiring harness.
My plan is to install the instrument panel in the dash before I put the whole dash back, since it was removed before I bought the car. Is their any reason this would make the install more completed?.
Any thought on this.
Dennis
Palm Desert Ca. They say it's going to be 80 today.
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From: Washington Michigan
Originally Posted by OCS1667
My plan is to install the instrument panel in the dash before I put the whole dash back, since it was removed before I bought the car. Is their any reason this would make the install more completed?.
Any thought on this.
Dennis Palm Desert Ca. They say it's going to be 80 today.
Any thought on this.
Dennis
Palm Desert Ca. They say it's going to be 80 today.
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From: Southeast Missouri
Originally Posted by JohnZ
That's how we built them originally - main panel, cluster, instrument panel harness, speaker/grille, defroster outlet, heater control cables, clock, eyebrow pads, radio, etc. were built up as a subassembly off-line where everything was out in the open, then installed as a single unit.
Do you remember how the "wings" at the ends of the assembly were painted after the rivets were put in? I assume the body already was painted before installing the assembly? But the "wings" I've seen are painted to match body color, rivets & all? Correct?
How did this process go?
Sorry for the trouble, not really important I guess, but I'm just curious as to how things were done.
Ron Miller
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From: Calhoun, GA_______ Let It Rock
Ron - I started to ask the same question ! I saw a picture in one of the books that shows the outlines of the radio panels on the floorboard. This car was being restored and when they removed the carpet you could see the outlines. Like the panels were just placed on the floor pan and painted when the car went through the paint process ? When was the center/radio console painted ? Vette Vues or Nolands book talks about the rivets, paint seperation lines from body to interior and end panels . Seems it changed around from year to year ? But they don't get into much detail about the painted items in an interior - seat backs, console, radio panels, convertible trim covers (behind the seats), etc...
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From: Washington Michigan
Originally Posted by Grey Ghost
Ron - I started to ask the same question ! I saw a picture in one of the books that shows the outlines of the radio panels on the floorboard. This car was being restored and when they removed the carpet you could see the outlines. Like the panels were just placed on the floor pan and painted when the car went through the paint process ? When was the center/radio console painted ? Vette Vues or Nolands book talks about the rivets, paint seperation lines from body to interior and end panels . Seems it changed around from year to year ? But they don't get into much detail about the painted items in an interior - seat backs, console, radio panels, convertible trim covers (behind the seats), etc...
The seat back panels and convertible quarter trim panels were supplied molded-in-color; they weren't painted. The shift consoles were painted by the supplier, not at St. Louis (which generated 32 part numbers of them). The radio side panels, kickpad finishing panels, etc. were laid on the floor and painted in the color booth.
