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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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I mounted a relay on the wire from the ignition switch to the starter motor solenoid. And a hidden button to activate the relay during starting. Don't push the button, no juice to the starter. And I'm about to mount a kill switch for the ignition module. That should slow them up for awhile.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LB66383
I mounted a relay on the wire from the ignition switch to the starter motor solenoid. And a hidden button to activate the relay during starting. Don't push the button, no juice to the starter. And I'm about to mount a kill switch for the ignition module. That should slow them up for awhile.
The main battery + cable goes directly to the starter. By using a screw driver to short between the solenoid terminal and the main battery post on the starter, the starter will turn over. This is independent of anything you do upstream of the solenoid. It's an old trick that mechanics use. Thieves all know about it.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jrs 427
Tom; Looks like you excelled in "borrowing Mustangs" ( you have 4 of them ). My question is.... did any of the owners want them back ? Even without insurance I bet they thought it was a good deal. Had a couple mustangs ( 67s) and don't miss them. The Ford followers can search them out and ride those horses.
The purpose of the Mustangs is to keep the Vettes clean when the weather is sloppy. I thought everybody knew that??

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom454
The main battery + cable goes directly to the starter. By using a screw driver to short between the solenoid terminal and the main battery post on the starter, the starter will turn over. This is independent of anything you do upstream of the solenoid. It's an old trick that mechanics use. Thieves all know about it.
True, but the instant you remove the shorting screwdriver, there's no power to the coil (from the "R" terminal bypass wire); you can turn it over that way (same as using a mechanic's remote starter button), but it won't run.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Checkout LIFETRAK.NET vehicle tracking system. It is a small unit that is hidden in the car. You can track it on your computer, exact locaction, direction and speed. I have one in a vehicle now and it works outstanding.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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True, but the instant you remove the shorting screwdriver, there's no power to the coil (from the "R" terminal bypass wire); you can turn it over that way (same as using a mechanic's remote starter button), but it won't run.
It will run if I do as I posted above initially, and you have a mechanical fuel pump.

I.E.- cut all wires going to the + side of the coil and run a clip lead from the alt/gen output post to the + side of the coil.

This is all common information... all mechanics use this technique for "process of elimination" troubleshooting.

"Old School"
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kenEDMUNDS
Checkout LIFETRAK.NET vehicle tracking system. It is a small unit that is hidden in the car. You can track it on your computer, exact locaction, direction and speed. I have one in a vehicle now and it works outstanding.

Ken, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

What is the cost of this?
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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I went to their Website but the cost is not provided. Clicked on their "Contact Us" link and asked for the cost. The response indicated that I would receive a reply within 48 hrs.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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I wandered over to e-bay on a whim.

These types of systems are on e-bay. "Real time" ones are priced anywhere from $350 to $400 plus some convoluted annual fee of $50 or $150, I can't quite figure it out.

Here is one:

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This is cool: "This device can be programmed to send a status report at whatever freqency the user desires, and has a built in motion detector to automatically send out position reports if unauthorized movement is detected"

Just don't let your wife, girlfriend or both learn how to use the tracking system...wink, wink.

Let us know how much lifetrak is.

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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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I think the cost was $250 and the cost per "track" is I think was 250 tracks for $100.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Maybe a bit off topic from a simple "kill switch" (they never stopped a tow truck / rollback) , but if you're looking for a comprehensive vehicle recovery system, you must incorporate both GPS AND cellular technology. For security applications, the system should at minimum;
1) Be capable of triggering upon movement (motion or location)
2) Transmit GPS coordinates in a standardized format (NMEA etc.), in real time, at user-programmable intervals via cellular service (SMS messaging) to a cell/PDA/laptop.

What the owner decides to do with those coordinates once recieved depends on their technical aptitude. They can; a) Simply relay the stream of incoming GPS coordinates to the police and let them map & chase the car down. b) Pay a 3rd party to map it's location for them (web access subscriptions, mapping, monitoring fees, "locates" etc.). c) Plug them into a mapping program (Garmin, Google Earth etc.) themselves to hunt the car down.

Here's just one of many recent contenders (no affiliation) that's recently entered the market; www.pocketgpsworld.com/worldtrackersms.php
..for about the price of a set of tires.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Yank the coil wire and put it in your pocket Then boot a tire
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kenEDMUNDS
LIFETRAK.NET
Interesting product, and I know that they are others like it. The thing I noticed is that their website seems greatly outdated or they're running a 6 month promotion for a free phone; something that seems unlikely. I get nervous about the size/stability of companies if they're not keeping their website updated.
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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I don't know much about them. A friend who owns a security agency has used them on all his cars and I have used them for almost a year.
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