kill switch
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Instructor
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From: Modesto ca
kill switch
It's just difficult for me to relax when I park and leave my 60 in the public even for a few minutes. A kill switch might help.
Which specific wire would you wire a toggle kill switch into that is located under the dash? thanks
Which specific wire would you wire a toggle kill switch into that is located under the dash? thanks
Le Mans Master
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From: Santa Ana CA
At one point, I changed the blower switch on my dealer-installed A/C unit such that when I turned it to a certain position, the alarm was engaged. Everyone looks under the dash but who would ever think to turn off the A/C to deactivate the alarm?
Heel & Toe
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I have to say, that is just genius... i was looking for a electrical spark cut off unit, they sell it for modern cars, but i never found a kit for classics... how did you arrange such a set up?
Burning Brakes
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From: Ocean Springs, MS
St. Jude Donor '07
When I was growing up in Detroit a local shop would tie a passive kill switch into another switch for $45. On one car I had it was the cigarette lighter (I have smoked) and on another it was the rear window defogger. Not sure where I would put one on my '64 but I like the idea.
How about the floor dimmer switch or a secondary switch mounted under the carpet? Just thinking...
How about the floor dimmer switch or a secondary switch mounted under the carpet? Just thinking...
Melting Slicks
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A simple 2 pole toggle switch hidden somewhere under the dash or any place else with each wire from the toggle switch wired as follows:
1 wire to the lead that connects to the points on the distributor
1 wire to a good ground.
This disables the ignition - car will not start when toggle switch is in "on" position. (points shorted to ground). Flip toggle to "off" and the car will start. You can also install the same arrangement on any MSD 6 series box by using the "tach lead" output connections. Works fine.
1 wire to the lead that connects to the points on the distributor
1 wire to a good ground.
This disables the ignition - car will not start when toggle switch is in "on" position. (points shorted to ground). Flip toggle to "off" and the car will start. You can also install the same arrangement on any MSD 6 series box by using the "tach lead" output connections. Works fine.
Instructor
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From: Oklahoma
Great thread.
I would still be nervous with just a switch. Towtrucks and trailers could still get your car.
Anybody got the details on Lojack or any other GPS based alarm system? I dont think Lojack is available in my area.
My '67 needs OnStar!
I would still be nervous with just a switch. Towtrucks and trailers could still get your car.
Anybody got the details on Lojack or any other GPS based alarm system? I dont think Lojack is available in my area.
My '67 needs OnStar!
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no go ..
I had a toggle installed in the ashtray . a small plate was tack welded across the ashtray and switch mounted on it.. the ashtray door hides it .. for a locator device google ' Boomerang " anti car theft .. asecret locator is installed somewhere in the car [ only the installer knows] and uses cellular
service to locate the car if ever it disappears .. you can electronically scan the car but it can not be located as it sits and only 'chirps' a signal
once an hour until told to activate by the search team who call the police to tag along once they have the car located..
monitor fee is something like 20 -25 a month..
service to locate the car if ever it disappears .. you can electronically scan the car but it can not be located as it sits and only 'chirps' a signal
once an hour until told to activate by the search team who call the police to tag along once they have the car located..
monitor fee is something like 20 -25 a month..
Le Mans Master
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From: Going too fast over the hill. Iowa
My alarm system does not chirp when armed, because whenever it makes a noise the cell phone attached to it calls me.
The ignition disconnect switch in my car is to make the thief feel like he found the only protection. I also switch off the fuel pump so the car runs out of gas in a few blocks - in traffic.
IMO shorting the coil to ground is not a good idea. Better to open the connection. Otherwise pull the plug above the distributor apart and connect each purple wire to a switch. That will keep the starter from being engaged. IMO it's a little harder to hot wire than the coil is.
The ignition disconnect switch in my car is to make the thief feel like he found the only protection. I also switch off the fuel pump so the car runs out of gas in a few blocks - in traffic.
IMO shorting the coil to ground is not a good idea. Better to open the connection. Otherwise pull the plug above the distributor apart and connect each purple wire to a switch. That will keep the starter from being engaged. IMO it's a little harder to hot wire than the coil is.
Melting Slicks
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From: Mason, MI
I think I remember reading here that someone had wired a kill switch in the trunk of their solid-axle. Always went to the trunk to drop off cell phone, etc., so it was easy to just flip the switch.
Melting Slicks
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From: Sarasota Florida
Originally Posted by ptuner1
It's just difficult for me to relax when I park and leave my 60 in the public even for a few minutes. A kill switch might help.
Which specific wire would you wire a toggle kill switch into that is located under the dash? thanks
Which specific wire would you wire a toggle kill switch into that is located under the dash? thanks
I had a friend who has a 1962 Corvette he bought back in the 70s,.. He got tired of people cutting the soft top to try and "steal" his Corvette.
. ...So, he decided to leave it "unlocked"..He had a cut off valve near the gas tank fuel line tank he would shut off at night..He wake up in the morning..notice the car was gone walk down the block where it was "always" parked "Run out of gas" 
...Turn the valve "on" and bring it back home..He figured people who tried to steal it were not smart enough to understand why the car wouldnt "restart" and just abandon it...One guy who stole it put a note on the windshield told him he had a "Crappy Corvette" and was angry it wouldnt run...
Last edited by Blk63Vette; Mar 22, 2006 at 11:59 AM.
Racer
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magicv8 can you still shut off the fuel pump if it's manual or did you upgrade to an electric FP? Thanks, this is a great thread. I'm having a Ravelco cut off put on mine eventually. I have it on my daily driver pick up truck and haven't had anyone try and steal it yet.
I also had a cutoff on my old truck which was wired into the cig lighter. Push the lighter in and the motor shuts down. Pull it out and it's starts right up.
I also had a cutoff on my old truck which was wired into the cig lighter. Push the lighter in and the motor shuts down. Pull it out and it's starts right up.
Le Mans Master
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From: Santa Ana CA
Originally Posted by 6T5C2
magicv8 can you still shut off the fuel pump if it's manual or did you upgrade to an electric FP? Thanks, this is a great thread. I'm having a Ravelco cut off put on mine eventually. I have it on my daily driver pick up truck and haven't had anyone try and steal it yet.
I also had a cutoff on my old truck which was wired into the cig lighter. Push the lighter in and the motor shuts down. Pull it out and it's starts right up.
I also had a cutoff on my old truck which was wired into the cig lighter. Push the lighter in and the motor shuts down. Pull it out and it's starts right up.
Racer
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For more ideas see U.S. Patent 5,886,420 entitled Automotive anti-theft device which disables the distributor by fracturing its rotor, which can be view by the following link. I noticed that the patent is not assigned, therefore the inventor may consider offering nonexclusive license agreements?
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=2&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&S1=((dis tributor.ABST.+AND+theft)+AND+solenoid)& OS=abst/distributor+and+theft+and+solenoid&RS=(( ABST/distributor+AND+theft)+AND+solenoid)
or try
+AND+solenoid)&OS=abst/distributor+and+theft+and+solenoid&RS=((ABST/distributor+AND+theft)+AND+solenoid))
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=2&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&S1=((dis tributor.ABST.+AND+theft)+AND+solenoid)& OS=abst/distributor+and+theft+and+solenoid&RS=(( ABST/distributor+AND+theft)+AND+solenoid)
or try
Le Mans Master
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From: Going too fast over the hill. Iowa
Originally Posted by 6T5C2
magicv8 can you still shut off the fuel pump if it's manual or did you upgrade to an electric FP?
Originally Posted by 1965glengreen
For more ideas see U.S. Patent 5,886,420 entitled Automotive anti-theft device which disables the distributor by fracturing its rotor
Le Mans Master
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From: Raleigh North Carolina
When I want to steal an old Corvette, I cut the wires going to the coil + and run a clip lead from the alt/gen output terminal (goes directly to the battery) and use a small screw driver to trip the starter solenoid. Works every time (except for electric fuel pumps). Kill switch never enters the equation.
Just kidding.
I only steal old Mustangs.
Just kidding.
I only steal old Mustangs.
Drifting
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Tom; Looks like you excelled in "borrowing Mustangs" ( you have 4 of them ). My question is.... did any of the owners want them back ? Even without insurance I bet they thought it was a good deal. Had a couple mustangs ( 67s) and don't miss them. The Ford followers can search them out and ride those horses.
Had a couple mustangs ( 67s) and don't miss them. The Ford followers can search them out and ride those horses.