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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Default Winter project (INTERIOR) looking for comments

Dash pad removal - easy? (do you have to take the dash out?)

Steering column removal - easy?

Cluster removal - easy? (I know, use Jason Oliver to restore)

Radio restoration - suggested vendor?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by crw41
Steering column removal - easy?
I thought so. Watch out for the rag joint at the steering box. As I pulled my steering column out of the car, the shaft got stuck at the rag joint and I ended up tearing my rag joint in the process

Cluster removal - easy? (I know, use Jason Oliver to restore)
Easy - relatively. There are several threads on this topic, but the Key points to know:
1) Use the 1/4 x 20 long bolts with heads removed in place of the mounting screws to help you move the cluster away from the dash without having to support it seperately
2) It won't go far until you disconnect the oil line
3) Then the tach cable and speedo cables will be your constraint
4) With those disconnected you can get the cluster far enough away from the current mounting location to be able to disconnect all the wires from the back

Radio restoration - suggested vendor?
I used Joe Ray parts for my radio, as recommended by Jason. Joe Ray rebuilt my radio (no cosmetic restoration) and it sounds as good as it probably did new - which isn't saying much that that's not Joe Ray's fault.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by crw41
Dash pad removal - easy? (do you have to take the dash out?)
Easy, clips are a pain, use a common screw driver ~the same width as the clip to spread the top and close the clips, plan to buy many replace ments. The replacement pads should be heated in the sun to soften them up so they conform to the dash more easily, that is going to be a trick in the winter, I guess and electric blanket would do the same thing. If you get stuck E-mail me and I will get you through this

Steering column removal - easy?
Very easy, just mark the rag joint, take the bolt out of the rag joint so the sfaft slips out easily and the shaft to put it back in the same position so your wheel is straight. While it's out put a new turn signal switch in.

Cluster removal - easy? (I know, use Jason Oliver to restore)
If you pull the seat, column, and wear glassses so stuff does not fall in your eyes, it not hard, just tedious. Plan on replacing all bulbs, covers (LICS has them) and lub the tach cable and speedo cable with graphite while everthing is apart (sparingly so you don't muck up the heads)

Radio restoration - suggested vendor?
Don't remember, someone else chime in

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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1. Dash pad removal-difficulty level-medium.
You will need to remove the radio, glovebox, steering column, and gauge cluster. I use an icepick to seperate the clips and then a pair of needle nose pliers to pull them out. Without removing the entire dash it will be difficult if not impossible to get all of the clips back in.

2. steering column-very easy

3. Gauge cluster-easy to medium. Make sure you label everything and it will save you a lot of time when you go to put it back together.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I agree. Make sure you have a service manual. It has a great wiring diagram in it. Make some photocopies of the cluster wiring in it. It is easier than dealing with the book and you can mark them up.

I hate to mention it...but while you are there....it would be your best time to replace the wiring harness. Most of it is cluster connections anyways.

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3. Gauge cluster-easy to medium. Make sure you label everything and it will save you a lot of time when you go to put it back together.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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I agree. Make sure you have a service manual. It has a great wiring diagram in it. Make some photocopies of the cluster wiring in it. It is easier than dealing with the book and you can mark them up.

I hate to mention it...but while you are there....it would be your best time to replace the wiring harness. Most of it is cluster connections anyways.
I am taking my cluster out this winter and I always wondered if it would be the best time for the wiring harness. What else comes out? Radio and glove box?
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I am taking my cluster out this winter and I always wondered if it would be the best time for the wiring harness. What else comes out? Radio and glove box?
If you just need to replace the wiring then you can get away with removing just the cluster, glovebox and the steering column. You dont need to remove the radio to replace the harness. I tried something different the last time i had mine out and it saved a good bit of frustration. Ihooked up the harness to my cluster first then put the cluster in. You will need to remember where to route the wires though if you do it that way. Then after you install the cluster and route the wires you can bolt the fuse box to the firewall and hook up the radio, courtesy lights etc.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Don't forget the console side panels, those need to come off too. Then there's the "Gee, while I'm in there" stuff, like rebushing the pedal assembly, new seals on the vent doors......... If you can resist, you're a better man than I.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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LB6683 is right. If you are down for a long winter and have the funds. Might as well tackle several things while you are there. Including firewall grommets, sealing, etc...
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If the dash has to come out - does anyone had a link or a site that will show the best way to do this?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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I think...it is bonded at the console area. Rivets hold the wings to the jamb area. Drill the rivets out and break the bond.

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Originally Posted by crw41
If the dash has to come out - does anyone had a link or a site that will show the best way to do this?
If you are not talking about the entire dash skeleton but instead talking about removing the cluster and various bits, this link from Grey Ghost helped me out

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...671&forum_id=4
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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doing the gauge cluster thing and harness (I rate it high on the swear word list scale myself) means you will be pulling the steering column (at least it makes it a ton easier and it is quick and easy to do) so you might as well look at the upper and lower bearing packs while you have the dang thing out (I was pulling my cluster this spring, and when I took out my column, little bearings came dribbling out - ruh roh, project creep!)
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crw41
If the dash has to come out - does anyone had a link or a site that will show the best way to do this?
I wrote a pair of photo-illustrated technical articles on removal and installation of the cluster in the July and September '04 issues of "Corvette Enthusiast" magazine; BarryK may have them up on his website.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks John, I actually saved that issue.

Doing a little researching, it sounds like the way to go about doing the dash pad replacement is to actually remove the whole dash.

I was hoping someone could provide a link or pics as to how to go about:

- drilling out the dash rivets
- replacing the rivets
- other tips on taking the dash out
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