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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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i would like to test my vac secs on my sd 750. was wondering if anyone knew a way to see if they were for sure opening. dont feel much of an extra oomph like i could with my other carb. soooo, does someone know of a way to test that part? i emailed sd, but waiting on a reply and it has been a few. been having a few issues with carb as of late, so i would like to check to make sure.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Take a paper clip and slide it on the vacuum actuating rod. It will hold it's place from the tension between the folds in the paper clip wire. Slide it flush against the top of the vacuum pod.

Next go for a drive, Floor it to a given RPM, say 2000 RPM, then go back and check to see how far the paper clip has moved down the rod. Do this every 1000 RPM, and it will give you an idea when and how far the secondaries are opening.

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Old May 19, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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You can also put a dab of grease on the part of the carb base that's the wide-open throttle stop for the throttle shaft lever on the passenger side of the carb, and go out and run it hard. If you find grease transferred to the throttle shaft lever, you know it opened all the way. If it's a small-block, a 750 may NEVER open all the way, but the original 585 probably will.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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yea, tis a small block 350 with some add ons., but still a small block. i always kinda felt the 650 was a better carb for this setup, and the 750 was too much. was i wrong? the 750 came with the engine so i kept it. thanks for the advice. will do this asap. nice here. and also thinking of doing somerset cruise july 28. so, i'd like to clear this up.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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750 cfm is too big for a 350.

A 650 cfm would run better.
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Kind of depends on what HP the 350 has. My stock '70 LT-1 short block with Dart Platinum heads, headers, Torker manifold runs great with the #3310 Holley 750 and the secondarys do open all the way. Depends on what vac. spring you are using. On a stock 350, a 600-650 is probably better. It all depends on modifications or extra stock HP (I think the stock 350 LT-1 engines in 1970 came with a 780 Holley - correct me if I'm wrong)
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not stock. really nice engine. gotta check that vacuum spring. will post specs on my cam and heads etc. love the engine, just tweaking the carb. the sec spring needs changed and the choke was screwed up a bit. will post specs later. going to wings game tonight.
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Originally Posted by knight37128
750 cfm is too big for a 350.

A 650 cfm would run better.
I'll kindly agree to disagree.. My built 327 was choked down by the 650 and with the 750 on there it runs much better... Dave
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Originally Posted by youwish2bme
I'll kindly agree to disagree.. My built 327 was choked down by the 650 and with the 750 on there it runs much better... Dave
What "brand" of carb?

Is your 327 stock?

The 365hp 327 used only a 600 cfm carb. The 425hp 427 used the 780 cfm carb.
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What "brand" of carb?

Is your 327 stock?

The 365hp 327 used only a 600 cfm carb. The 425hp 427 used the 780 cfm carb.
Barry Grant Speed Demon, Just because the General didn't use it doesn't mean that it's not better. Dave
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Originally Posted by youwish2bme
Barry Grant Speed Demon, Just because the General didn't use it doesn't mean that it's not better. Dave
Never said it wasn't better (or worse).

Just to give you an idea what size the original equipment was. If they didn't put a bigger carb on there, it was because it was not needed.

Very few street cars need a 750 cfm carb.
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Originally Posted by knight37128
Never said it wasn't better (or worse).

Just to give you an idea what size the original equipment was. If they didn't put a bigger carb on there, it was because it was not needed.

Very few street cars need a 750 cfm carb.
Okay your right I must have to much carb.... , Does anyone want to buy a used 750 cfm carb? ... Dave
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ok. just to stir the pot a bit. here are the specs. i think it is kinda in between both carbs, but i really do value the genius on this site. so, here you go.
trick flow Kenny Duttweiler aluminum heads with 64cc chambers, 195 cc intake chambers, 2.02/1.60" stainless valves and 1.47" springs
flat tappet hydraulic cam with 228*/234* duration @ .050, .480"/.494" lift with trick flow push rods, 1.5 roller rockers, and valve covers. all valve train are Trick Flow peices and edelbrock air-gap RPM intake
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That 750 vac sec BG carb will run just great on any 327 or 350 - no problem. That's the glory of a vac sec carb.
However, my testing on those shows that the carb will likely not fully open the secondaries with the stock spring. During the Tuning for Beer Tours, we're able to really wake those carbs up by installing the softest possible spring on the secondary side. Using the Holley spring kit, use the short white spring - that's the softest one. This will allow much earlier secondary opening, and will assure that the secondary side opens as much as it should. This little mod has consistently worked very well on all the BG 750 vac sec carbs we have done on 327s and 350s during the Tuning Tours.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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yea, missed that tour last year. i think you were at dream cruise. hey, thanks. i wish i had made it, but thanks again. will keep you up to date. later.
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thanks lars. you are a wizard. you know, emailed bg about this several times, no reply. i mean, these carbs are not cheap. i would think some better service is due from them. put the white spring in and bam. the car is zipping all over the place. vacuum secs seem smoother than mechanical secs from what i can feel. thanks a bunch man. you rock. i hope to run into you one day and buy several beers.....
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