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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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We disassembled the 327 engine over the weekend.
The cam is stamped 113R and 1539 CWC.
Can anyone tell me where I can get the specifications for this cam?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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CWC is a division of Textron. They are (likely) the only source of vintage small block cam blanks. Not sure if there is any clear numbering convention anymore; likely depends on who grinds the blanks.

If it a hydraulic lifter cam, measure the dimension from the high point of the lobe to the base circle. The standard, GM Goodwrench service replacement hydraulic cam for 327 & 350 c.i. base engines (GM#14088839) is nominally ...

Inlet - 1.5875"
Exhaust - 1.5750"

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I would point out that the "113R" is a familar p/n, the 30-30 cam sold by Speed Pro (and others) bears part number CS-113R.

food for thought
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Originally Posted by ctjackster
I would point out that the "113R" is a familar p/n, the 30-30 cam sold by Speed Pro (and others) bears part number CS-113R.
I'm with you. I think CWC is a company that used to make OEM camshafts, but were bought out by Federal Mogul at some point.
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http://www.textron.com/textron_busin...x_products.jsp
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Originally Posted by ctjackster
I would point out that the "113R" is a familar p/n, the 30-30 cam sold by Speed Pro (and others) bears part number CS-113R.

food for thought
I thought the SP 30-30 cam is the 118R? I believe the 097 cam is the 113R.

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dmentzer
I thought the SP 30-30 cam is the 118R? I believe the 097 cam is the 113R.
That's correct.
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whoops, classic mistake (memory, should never rely on it alone!) mixing up an 097 cam number for a 30-30 cam number, my bad!
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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I believe this is an original 63 fuelie solid lifter cam.
I just wondered if there was a web page that gave the specs on this cam.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Famester
I believe this is an original 63 fuelie solid lifter cam.
I just wondered if there was a web page that gave the specs on this cam.
Google Sealed Power or Federal Mogul. Federal Mogul just went under ie. deep six and too the bottom.

Opps, on second thought it has already been identified, so figure it is a 097

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Just for future reference or comparison- Comp. Cams make a 30-30 cam for small blocks----

http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com

Then click on COMP.CAMS on line store [near the center of page]
then type in 12-672-4 [ Hydraulic cam]
or 12-673-4 [solid lifters] in the search box,
from there click on cam specs. Dont know if these are close to factory spec.

If I had my engine that tore apart I would be putting a roller cam in with as close to that grind as possible. Cant tell from the outside of the engine . The best part is you probably get about 40 more horses and you don't have to worry about the reduced anti- ware compounds in the motor oils. Just takes money. A friend of mine had a '67 big block tri- power engine with every thinkable upgrade[ inside the engine] possible [ he said it made about 600 H.P. ] and took his car to a NCRS convention and got top flight with it. He just recently past away and the car is up for sale by his wife, when the new owner floors it for the first time I hope his bladder is empty.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/D...00/cmspec.html


http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/solidcams.html

I am sure it is the 097 cam as being the 113R

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113 is a Sealed Power number for the 097 Duntov as I too looked it up in my catalogues....

hell, I already said that 2-3 post or replies above
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Default Sealed Power CS113R

Just for clarification, Federal-Mogul did not go belly up, they are alive and well. Spent 5 years in Bankruptcy over Asbestos litigation that is now settled, emerged from BK in Dec 2007. Carl Ichan has purchased almost 75% of this 6 billion dollar company. He may change it but he has money. 17 billion estimated worth.

I checked out the CS 113R. Still a good part and still available.

Specs Solid Lifter Camshaft

Int Lift .395 Exh Lift .401 Duration @ .050 Lift 228 / 230 @.006 270 / 270 110 degrees lobe separation designed to make high RPM power, weak vacuum at idle, pretty thumpy idle. Pretty small cam by todays standards for lift. Old design but good for the small cubic inch engines. The 1996 Speed Pro Catalog listed this as the 283 with Fuel Injection camshaft GM part # 3736097, also said it matched the Duntov.

Hope this helps.

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