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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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I have the two carter four barrels on my 59. A rpm meter doesn't move enough to register any real change in engine speed. I set them by ear but they seem to be turned in (clockwise) a lot. Any suggestions to make sure my 283 runs well?
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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Larry, a vac. gauge is the best way, go for highest reading. Bill.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry D de Montegre
I have the two carter four barrels on my 59. A rpm meter doesn't move enough to register any real change in engine speed. I set them by ear but they seem to be turned in (clockwise) a lot. Any suggestions to make sure my 283 runs well?
Larry Retired and living the hobby.
Set them in a nice resting spot in a box and buy Holley's where my tuner told me, LOL. Sorry no help just a smartA#*
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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If you are talking about idle mixture adjustment; my experience has been that 3/4 to 1+1/4 turn out is where most seem to run best.
Of course carb float level(s), ignition tune, camshaft, valve lash, etc. all may affect these adjustments. The idle air rate (idle speed screw) should me set equally for both also.
As stated above, a vacuum gage also works well.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Start with all four idle Mixture screws out 1 full turn each. Then adjust the idle Speed screws to your chosen idle level. I like about 900 rpm. Then go back and tweak the mixture screws. Try a 1/4 turn in and out each pair of Mixture screws at a time and listen and feel what your engine likes.
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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These old carbs are finicky to adjust but run like the dickens when properly set. Sometimes you just have to find the sweet spot with the idle mixture screws....I have had to back them out sometimes (counter-clockwise) until the engine stumbles then start working them back in. A vacuum gauge is crucial. Anyway I have some old manuals on tuning/repairing these carbs that I will email you if you PM me with your email address.

Don't be surprised if the mixture screws are only 1/4 turn out or so...not unusual...
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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On my 2x4 C1's, I always added a Paragon #755 vacuum fitting to the base of the rear carb, replacing the stock plug, for a convenient spot to attach a vacuum gauge for adjusting the idle mixture screws.

The 2-piece fitting simplifies installing it - you leave the threaded nipple off during the install so you don't have to raise the carb off the manifold for swing clearance, then screw in the nipple.

The Dave Zuberer file below shows it in detail.
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Larry, you did not mention if your Carbs have been serviced recently or not but in addition to all of the above, I would remove all the idle mixture screws and spray some gumout in each of the mixture holes, followed by some compressed air. This will assure that one or more of the idle circuits is not partially plugged. Reinstall the screws about 1 1/2 turns from bottom and proceed as above with the vaccum guage and tach hooked up. Pilot Dan
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thanks...very clear and will try your idea. Larry
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