Originally Posted by Mark_Milner

Both CF and NCRS have their value. Both have shortcomings. But generally, you can discuss anything here and there is even an off topic area for discussing literally anything that comes out of one's head, from either end.

On the NCRS Tech Discussion Board, you have to toe the line. There is a definite hierarchy of who is important and who isn't and if you upset those above, they shut you down. In that case, you are usually never welcome to return.

Generally, you have the masses blow you off here, unless you get to far off and then a moderator shuts your thread down. If you really do bad, you go to band camp for awhile.

NCRS is basically intolerant. Part of that is the nature and purpose of their organization, so it is to be expected. Like going to a Baptist church and wondering why they don't have Saturday night dances for the teens in the basement. Or wondering why the Catholics don't tell unmarried pregnant teens that abortion is another option.

It doesn't fit, you know the rules going in, and so you have to abide.

Here, the rules are a bit wider. They are for Corvettes here, not restored or surviving original Corvettes only. That automatically opens them to a wider audience. Now a few of the "creations" people have displayed here have surprised me that there wasn't a massive increase in NCRS membership as a result, but still, that is what CF is about - anything Corvettes.

Also, most of those with attitudes don't last long here. On the NCRS TDB, often the attitudes are the ones in the hierarchy.

Originally Posted by MikeM

I have been a Corvette enthusiast since 1956 and a "watcher" back to 1953. The first Corvette I could afford, a '65 model, I bought in 1972. I still have it. It's original as can be on most counts. I've had a '64 and a '77 also. Still have a '63 also I bought five years ago. I like original/original looking/era correct.

I don't need the NCRS organization to give me a fuzzy feeling but I enjoy fraternizing with many of it's members. Not because they're members, because they're good people.

I also agree with Proc' Racing. They closed their board to members only. Their loss, not mine. In my book, just being snooty. I mean, it says when you open up the board that they're basically doing you a favor with a thrity day trial. I used to read and contribute almost daily. Now, I hardly ever go there and look in and don't miss it a bit.

Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869

My problem here is, while people have valid points about some shortcoming of NCRS and some members, the general pervasive anti-NCRS vibe you get here quite often is just as bad as some of the behavior non-NCRS people accuse NCRS members of having.

Originally Posted by Procrastination Racing

I thought the closing of the NCRS Discussion Board to only members was the worse possible step they could do.

NCRS is already viewed as snooty and arrogant by many and this closing to the public made it seem even more an exclusive club. (BTW, exclusive means "to exclude", not make you special. I don't consider that desirable.)

I haven't been back there since.

I have several friends there, but for an organization whose mission statement was to preserve the history of Corvettes, they sure shut the doors on a lot of people. It wasn't information they were after but membership numbers.

Originally Posted by a560156

Steve, the "bashers" are back. Every month or so we get one of these unfortunate threads. Time again to blame NCRS for all the ills of mankind. Talk about intolerant...This just gets old after a while.

Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869

I'm also not seeing what is so horrible about a private organization that charges an annual fee, providing their tech board to just members.

Originally Posted by rayvaflav

I am a NCRS member. I mainly belong because I appeciate and admire the hard work and dedication that the NCRS goes through to keep the original spirit of the Corvettes alive and true. It's great for technical information and to get a better idea of how your car was originally built, I use them as a great baseline for restoration. However....I drive my car quite a bit and I believe that driving these cars was the original intent. So I will put on more modern gas charged shocks and heat and sound barriers and use it, knowing that I can always rebuild what is damaged. I have seen NCRS guys take their incerdible drivers that they enjoyed so much, do a frame-off correct resto and delegate the rest of that perfect car's life to the floor of a show and therefore, the top of a trailer. I think that I'll go take my incorrect car out for a ride. And beat the hell out of it !

Originally Posted by MikeM

I have been a Corvette enthusiast since 1956 and a "watcher" back to 1953. The first Corvette I could afford, a '65 model, I bought in 1972. I still have it. It's original as can be on most counts. I've had a '64 and a '77 also. Still have a '63 also I bought five years ago. I like original/original looking/era correct.

I don't need the NCRS organization to give me a fuzzy feeling but I enjoy fraternizing with many of it's members. Not because they're members, because they're good people.

I also agree with Proc' Racing. They closed their board to members only. Their loss, not mine. In my book, just being snooty. I mean, it says when you open up the board that they're basically doing you a favor with a thrity day trial. I used to read and contribute almost daily. Now, I hardly ever go there and look in and don't miss it a bit.