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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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I have the following engine sitting in my 59. Would someone please help with the numbers:
T1205D
3834810
G63 (this maybe an educated guess ..the numbers are are sitting below the shielding bracket and it was tough to see them)

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1964 3834810 Small Journal 2B 283CI is the cast (block type)

The other number appears its from the Tonawanda plant cast on December 5th. The D is the engine suffix code...

Engine ID Code Example: V0101CLJ - (V = Plant, 01 = Month, 01 = Day, CLJ = Engine Suffix Code)
Another example: T0830CTY - (T = Tonawanda, 08 = August, 30 = 30th day, CTY = 1970 396 Camaro, 375 hp, 11.0:1, TH400)

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Originally Posted by Steve59

T1205D
3834810
G63
That's a '64 283/195hp 2-barrel Powerglide engine, built December 5, 1963 at Tonawanda, originally installed in a full-size car.

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Originally Posted by Steve59
I have the following engine sitting in my 59. Would someone please help with the numbers:
T1205D
3834810
G63 (this maybe an educated guess ..the numbers are are sitting below the shielding bracket and it was tough to see them)

Thanks
Steve
John's right (no surprise there) but something is a bit strange.

Assembly date of 1205 (December 5th) and a casting date of G63.
A Tonowanda engine shoud have a two digit code for the year, so we are missing the day. Date code should be something like Gxx63, where xx would be a single or two digits representing the day.

Also, G would be July. A July cast engine with a December assembly date is a stretch.

Not a big deal, doesn't change what the engine is, just a curiosity.
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Originally Posted by emccomas
John's right (no surprise there) but something is a bit strange.

Assembly date of 1205 (December 5th) and a casting date of G63.
A Tonowanda engine shoud have a two digit code for the year, so we are missing the day. Date code should be something like Gxx63, where xx would be a single or two digits representing the day.

Also, G would be July. A July cast engine with a December assembly date is a stretch.

Not a big deal, doesn't change what the engine is, just a curiosity.
Read this part again and it will answer your question.

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G63 (this maybe an educated guess ..the numbers are are sitting below the shielding bracket and it was tough to see them)

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Read this part again and it will answer your question.
Which is why I am curious
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thanks guys for the info. I apparently have a matching numbers, complete 1964 passenger car 283 V8. It does have an AFB on it with the correct intake. I bought this motor in 1974 from a guy who had parted out 80 to 85 Corvettes from 1956 to 1964 (C-1,C-2 period). I was told that it was a "Corvette" engine, ( so much for truth in 1974). The motor that had come with the car never ran right, ( I doubt that it was the original motor...this car was pretty beat up in 74 for a 15 year old car), so I trashed it and put in what is now there. Looks like my next project will be trying to locate a more appropriate "corvette" motor, my car is a March 59 build.

I do have another question, numbers aside and ignoring the Flint v.Tonawanda block identification issue, what was the difference between a base 283 that was used in passenger cars and the base 283 that was used in the Vettes? Different heads? valves? pistons? crank? etc?
Thanks again for all of your help.
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Originally Posted by Steve59
I do have another question, numbers aside and ignoring the Flint v.Tonawanda block identification issue, what was the difference between a base 283 that was used in passenger cars and the base 283 that was used in the Vettes? Different heads? valves? pistons? crank? etc?
Thanks again for all of your help.
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Nothing, other than the pistons and the camshaft.

Remember, it was an assembly line.
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Originally Posted by Steve59
I do have another question, numbers aside and ignoring the Flint v.Tonawanda block identification issue, what was the difference between a base 283 that was used in passenger cars and the base 283 that was used in the Vettes? Different heads? valves? pistons? crank? etc?
Thanks again for all of your help.
Steve
The Corvette engine left Flint V-8 with a different clutch; the Corvette clutch had bent fingers, and the passenger car clutch had "flat" fingers; that's why they used different throwout bearings (1-1/4" on the Corvette, 1-7/8" on the cars).
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
The Corvette engine left Flint V-8 with a different clutch; the Corvette clutch had bent fingers, and the passenger car clutch had "flat" fingers; that's why they used different throwout bearings (1-1/4" on the Corvette, 1-7/8" on the cars).
Holy crap Infoman....thats awesome stuff.

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