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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Default Environmental Hypocrite?

My wife and I:

Bike (as in bicycle) thousands of miles per year, to and from work, errands, etc....
Use a cordless electric mower and recycle trash whenever possible.
Don't use air conditioning and have a high efficiency heater in our house.

We also cruise around for no apparent reason in an original equipment1966 427/425 Sting Ray with 4.11 rearend, every chance we get. (yeh, that one with the particularly dirty closed chamber heads from the mid-60's, 10 mpg, choking people when idling at stop lights, etc....)

Some might say we are Environmental Hypocrites.

They might be right, but there are some little pleasures we are simply unwilling to sacrifice. Period.

Besides, even with our Hot Rod excursions, I'm willing to bet that our carbon footprint is still smaller than Al Gore's!
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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If you are feeling really guilty, contact one of the "green" companies that Al Gore has his fingers into and buy some carbon offsets. Personally I could never feel that guilty, ever.

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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And your point is?????????????????????????????????????? ??

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I tired of all the "green" crap. I won't pollute, but too much of this green movement is bogus, being promoted by people who have nothing else to do
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GCD1962
I tired of all the "green" crap. I won't pollute, but too much of this green movement is bogus, being promoted by people who have nothing else to do
You wanna find out how many people have nothing to do but reply to your post just post that your vin tag is missing. Jiminy I was already packing my tooth brush to go to jail for buying the car. I stated my ex had owned it for 15 years turned she had owned it since '82 after I was going through all the receipts I got with it. Well after packing my tooth brush I finally located the VIN on frame and all is well. Must have been a birdcage replacement but the car seems to coincide with trim tag.

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I see this as being similar to drinking a diet soda with your cheeseburger. Sure, you'd be better off with something healthier than a cheeseburger, but you'd be worse off with a cheeseburger and a high calorie soft drink. The point being that if you can't do everything right, it's still better to do something right than nothing right.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by obx2323
You wanna find out how many people have nothing to do post just post that your vin tag is missing. Jiminy I was already packing my tooth brush to go to jail for buying the car. I stated my ex had owned it for 15 years turned she had owned it since '82 after I was going through all the receipts I got with it. Well after packing my tooth brush I finally located the VIN on frame and all is well. Must have been a birdcage replacement but that seems to coincide with trim tag.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lksmith
My wife and I:

We cruise around for no apparent reason in an original equipment1966 427/425 Sting Ray with 4.11 rearend, every chance we get. (yeh, that one with the particularly dirty closed chamber heads from the mid-60's, 10 mpg, choking people when idling at stop lights, etc....)

Some might say we are Environmental Hypocrites.
Somebody has to feed the trees their CO2. What do green fools think plants live on?
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The national pastime seems to have changed from sports to:

A. Worry (& complain) what some else is doing, and then
B. Get them to "think & act" like you. God, wouldn't that be boring!

This PC crap is just that.
Just leave me alone (and worry about yourself). I can think for myself (and will drive what I want to).

Plasticman

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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If you want to gag , check out Al Gores house ! Green my butt !
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I planted over 50,000 longleaf seedlings. My carbon credit is massive. I can do anything I want, for as long as I want.. BWAAhahahah
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by magicv8
Somebody has to feed the trees their CO2. What do green fools think plants live on?
Mother Nature would prefer that all of us make more, not less.

Besides, if the greenies were right, I would be thrilled. A warmer Earth is a more productive Earth.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Remember Al Gore is also the one who invented the Internet. If it wasn't for him we would'nt be chatting here. So go easy on poor Al !!!
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lksmith
Use a cordless electric mower
Why do you think using a cordless mower is less harmful to the environment?
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Guess I'm the odd man out. My daughter is a tree-hugging biologist and so she has me recycling my trash, using less harmful pesticides, etc.. Regardless of what you believe about global warming and all that other supposed science; there is only a finite amount of resources around and what we used to get away with for 3 billion people won't get it for 6 billion people (and growing fast)... If you have kids/grandkids you feel some obligation about not being completely wasteful. I don't go overboard but I sure pay more attention to such things...
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Originally Posted by fdreano
Guess I'm the odd man out. My daughter is a tree-hugging biologist and so she has me recycling my trash, using less harmful pesticides, etc.. Regardless of what you believe about global warming and all that other supposed science; there is only a finite amount of resources around and what we used to get away with for 3 billion people won't get it for 6 billion people (and growing fast)... If you have kids/grandkids you feel some obligation about not being completely wasteful. I don't go overboard but I sure pay more attention to such things...

Well said Frank.
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Originally Posted by fdreano
Guess I'm the odd man out. My daughter is a tree-hugging biologist and so she has me recycling my trash, using less harmful pesticides, etc.. Regardless of what you believe about global warming and all that other supposed science; there is only a finite amount of resources around and what we used to get away with for 3 billion people won't get it for 6 billion people (and growing fast)... If you have kids/grandkids you feel some obligation about not being completely wasteful. I don't go overboard but I sure pay more attention to such things...


It's the responsible thing to do, and responsibility demands looking at the larger picture of total environmental costs of the objects cradle-to-grave impact.

The Sting Ray in your driveway has a impact to manufacture that has already been invested and paid (decades ago). The cost of replacing it's recreational value with a newer vehicle demands more exploitation of natural resources that are more rare today than forty years ago (hence, more valuable today). Driving an old car is the responsible course of action, because with recycled and rebuilt parts it demands no new impact to the environment to build and maintain. The driving emissions and resource consumption impact may not be as clean as a new Corvette, but the older vehicles tend to be driven less (traveling 1/3'rd of the distance equals 1/3'rd of the emissions and fuel consumption, equaling out the impact to the comparable fuel consumption of a new ZO6).

A recent study came out of Berkley (the place to study all things environmental) that revealed if manufacturing costs were included in comparing environment impact, as opposed to the current comparisons that only recognize tail pipe emissions, the average new vehicle's negative impact on the environment is under-rated by about 63%, and in some cases underrated by 800% (those hybrid cars with lead-acid batteries are extremely dirty in a cradle-to-grave environment impact comparison).

Drive on, and be smug in knowing your Sting Rays' environmental impact is less than that new Prius owners cradle-to-grave impact (because your car demanded no new damage to manufacture).

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Most of the people I know that are obsessed with Green, ACLU, etc,etc,
are generally not talented physically or mentally enough to do anything else and that's all they do.
We recycle, don't litter, etc. but, you gotta have a life!
Larry
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