Headlight conversion
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POSSE ZR-1 Driver
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From: Groton CT
Headlight conversion
Does anyone know of replacement Halogen headlights (both Low/Hi and Hi Beam) for a C2?
I'm replacing my headlight harness and adding relays for the low and high beams, but I would like some more modern brighter bulbs. The old eyes need as much light as I can get.
Aircraft landing lights for high beams would be acceptable also if I locate a source.
Thanks.
Uhhhh... Never mind..... I remembered to use the search function. Guess the eyes aren't the only thing old......
I'm replacing my headlight harness and adding relays for the low and high beams, but I would like some more modern brighter bulbs. The old eyes need as much light as I can get.
Aircraft landing lights for high beams would be acceptable also if I locate a source.
Thanks.
Uhhhh... Never mind..... I remembered to use the search function. Guess the eyes aren't the only thing old......
Last edited by Subfixer; Oct 7, 2009 at 08:28 PM.
Burning Brakes
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From: dalton ma
Lights
The only thing I have been able to find (outside if the European type lights with replaceable bulbs) are Sylvania H5001XV and H5006XV. The XV signifies "xtravision" and is their second generation Halogen sealed beams. Supposed to be 15/20 % better that a regular H5001. Only place I could find them was on line at O'reillys, Kragen etc which we don't have on the east coast. Not installed yet so I can't comment on the range of improvement. Bob
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The aircraft landing lights are # 4537, and are size PAR46, 100 watt, 200,000 candle power @ 13 volts. Your high beam buckets will need slight modification (notched for a tab on the back of the bulb if I remember correctly). And, yes, you will need relays! Your existing sockets probably will need to have extended wiring to connect to the screw-on terminals also.
Here is a source:
http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/eca...WAGNER4537.htm
Here is a cheaper source for better GE bulbs:
http://www.bulbconnection.com/ViewSI...bulb_item.html
Plasticman
Here is a source:
http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com/eca...WAGNER4537.htm
Here is a cheaper source for better GE bulbs:
http://www.bulbconnection.com/ViewSI...bulb_item.html
Plasticman
Last edited by Plasticman; Oct 7, 2009 at 10:37 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: DFW
Consider the new HID landing lights... May not need a relay.
http://www.knots2u.com/HID%20Light.htm
Harry
Edit: quick internet search suggests a regular 5001 bulb draws 4 amps (vs <3 for the HID) It also looks like you'll need to add a ballast somewhere in the headlight bucket
http://www.knots2u.com/HID%20Light.htm
Harry
Edit: quick internet search suggests a regular 5001 bulb draws 4 amps (vs <3 for the HID) It also looks like you'll need to add a ballast somewhere in the headlight bucket
Last edited by 66since71; Oct 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM.
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Consider the new HID landing lights... May not need a relay.
http://www.knots2u.com/HID%20Light.htm
Harry
Edit: quick internet search suggests a regular 5001 bulb draws 4 amps (vs <3 for the HID) It also looks like you'll need to add a ballast somewhere in the headlight bucket
http://www.knots2u.com/HID%20Light.htm
Harry
Edit: quick internet search suggests a regular 5001 bulb draws 4 amps (vs <3 for the HID) It also looks like you'll need to add a ballast somewhere in the headlight bucket
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The headlight conversion is complete.
I replaced the Headlight Harness and added a 3-pack Painless Wiring relay setup.
One relay runs the Low Beams, one relay runs the Left side High Beams and the third relay runs the Right side High Beams.
I ran a couple of days with the old 35W/55W bulbs and the improvement was very noticeable. Of course, this was not enough.......
I'm now running Hella H4 Lo/Hi and H1 Hi beam replacements. Bulbs are 100W/95W H4's and 100W H1's. The Hella's are E-code models with a very sharp low beam cutoff so oncoming drivers are not blinded by the high wattage low beams.
Now it's like driving in daylight. Won't have any problem spotting the suicidal herds of deer on I-95 now.
I replaced the Headlight Harness and added a 3-pack Painless Wiring relay setup.
One relay runs the Low Beams, one relay runs the Left side High Beams and the third relay runs the Right side High Beams.
I ran a couple of days with the old 35W/55W bulbs and the improvement was very noticeable. Of course, this was not enough.......
I'm now running Hella H4 Lo/Hi and H1 Hi beam replacements. Bulbs are 100W/95W H4's and 100W H1's. The Hella's are E-code models with a very sharp low beam cutoff so oncoming drivers are not blinded by the high wattage low beams.
Now it's like driving in daylight. Won't have any problem spotting the suicidal herds of deer on I-95 now.
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POSSE ZR-1 Driver
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From: Groton CT
The reflector is from Hella. Got them here (the bottom 2 units):
http://www.autobahnpower.com/product...and+Headlights
They come with 55W/65W H4's and 65W H1's.
I picked up the high wattage bulbs from J C Whitney.
http://www.autobahnpower.com/product...and+Headlights
They come with 55W/65W H4's and 65W H1's.
I picked up the high wattage bulbs from J C Whitney.
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Subfixer do you have a picture of your relay setup?
Thx Mark
Thx Mark
The headlight conversion is complete.
I replaced the Headlight Harness and added a 3-pack Painless Wiring relay setup.
One relay runs the Low Beams, one relay runs the Left side High Beams and the third relay runs the Right side High Beams.
I ran a couple of days with the old 35W/55W bulbs and the improvement was very noticeable. Of course, this was not enough.......
I'm now running Hella H4 Lo/Hi and H1 Hi beam replacements. Bulbs are 100W/95W H4's and 100W H1's. The Hella's are E-code models with a very sharp low beam cutoff so oncoming drivers are not blinded by the high wattage low beams.
Now it's like driving in daylight. Won't have any problem spotting the suicidal herds of deer on I-95 now.
I replaced the Headlight Harness and added a 3-pack Painless Wiring relay setup.
One relay runs the Low Beams, one relay runs the Left side High Beams and the third relay runs the Right side High Beams.
I ran a couple of days with the old 35W/55W bulbs and the improvement was very noticeable. Of course, this was not enough.......
I'm now running Hella H4 Lo/Hi and H1 Hi beam replacements. Bulbs are 100W/95W H4's and 100W H1's. The Hella's are E-code models with a very sharp low beam cutoff so oncoming drivers are not blinded by the high wattage low beams.
Now it's like driving in daylight. Won't have any problem spotting the suicidal herds of deer on I-95 now.
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POSSE ZR-1 Driver
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From: Groton CT
Unfortunately, the relays are mounted to the front of the radiator support on the drivers side. With the hood on, you can't see them.
I'll try to get a couple of pictures through the grill tomorrow.
I'll try to get a couple of pictures through the grill tomorrow.
Drifting
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From: Woodstock GA
Great.I will be glad to see with more light...I put on a v/m to check voltage at thelights.It was only 10.4 with the motor running.
Thanks,Mark
Thanks,Mark
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"These (Hella H4) lamps are not DOT approved and are intended for performance off road or show usage. 7" & 5 3/4" round, 200mm and 4x6" rectangular H4 European Headlamps." (copied from the link)
I hope you guys putting in the watt bombs realize that alot of these lights are not street legal because they blind oncoming drivers. I thought is was just me getting cranking in my old age being blinded by so may oncoming drivers, but if this subjet is being discussed on the C1C/C2 forum, you can bet 2/3 of the ricers and half the lifted pickups on the road have too-bright forward lamps.
I apppreciate it's not fun driving when you can't see well. Just remeber you have to share the road with other drivers!
I hope you guys putting in the watt bombs realize that alot of these lights are not street legal because they blind oncoming drivers. I thought is was just me getting cranking in my old age being blinded by so may oncoming drivers, but if this subjet is being discussed on the C1C/C2 forum, you can bet 2/3 of the ricers and half the lifted pickups on the road have too-bright forward lamps.
I apppreciate it's not fun driving when you can't see well. Just remeber you have to share the road with other drivers!
Drifting
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From: CA central coast
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POSSE ZR-1 Driver
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From: Groton CT
"These (Hella H4) lamps are not DOT approved and are intended for performance off road or show usage. 7" & 5 3/4" round, 200mm and 4x6" rectangular H4 European Headlamps." (copied from the link)
I hope you guys putting in the watt bombs realize that alot of these lights are not street legal because they blind oncoming drivers. I thought is was just me getting cranking in my old age being blinded by so may oncoming drivers, but if this subjet is being discussed on the C1C/C2 forum, you can bet 2/3 of the ricers and half the lifted pickups on the road have too-bright forward lamps.
I apppreciate it's not fun driving when you can't see well. Just remeber you have to share the road with other drivers!
I hope you guys putting in the watt bombs realize that alot of these lights are not street legal because they blind oncoming drivers. I thought is was just me getting cranking in my old age being blinded by so may oncoming drivers, but if this subjet is being discussed on the C1C/C2 forum, you can bet 2/3 of the ricers and half the lifted pickups on the road have too-bright forward lamps.
I apppreciate it's not fun driving when you can't see well. Just remeber you have to share the road with other drivers!
Last edited by Subfixer; Nov 8, 2009 at 06:23 AM.
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