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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Driving the C2 around in the hot south Florida summer.The AC is on and getting stuck in traffic.Watching the temperature gauge slowly climbing to 230. Shut the AC off, roll down the widows. I get the car to the house and check out the hoses with the IR gun.Top hose showing 190 deg and bottom showing 165. The sending unit is way off.
Any pictures or ideas where you installed a variable resistor for the temperature sending unit ?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vic z
The sending unit is way off.
Any pictures or ideas where you installed a variable resistor for the temperature sending unit ?
Note that there is no resistor or resistor network that will provide wide range calibration accuracy of the temp gauge. After adding a resistor of any value, the gauge will be accurate at one and only one temperature.

For example, suppose you add series resistance of such a value that 180*F coolant temperature indicates 180*F on the gauge. At coolant temperatures above 180*F, the gauge will read lower than actual coolant temperature, giving you a false sense of security.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vic z
Driving the C2 around in the hot south Florida summer.The AC is on and getting stuck in traffic.Watching the temperature gauge slowly climbing to 230. Shut the AC off, roll down the widows. I get the car to the house and check out the hoses with the IR gun.Top hose showing 190 deg and bottom showing 165. The sending unit is way off.
Any pictures or ideas where you installed a variable resistor for the temperature sending unit ?
I have been using a variable resistor for 10 years or more. I set it to
180 degrees when the IR gun showed 180. If the gauge gets higher than that by very much (say 200) then I know there is a problem. That's all you can tell with a resistor in line.
Just splice it in where the sending wire goes into the firewall. Use about 30 inch leads so you can get to it and adjust to match the IR gun
reading at the water outlet (while engine is normal operating temp).
Stuff the resistor behind the radio console.
I used a 0-100 ohm resistor from Radio Shack. Get a plastic covered
one that uses a small screw driver to adjust. One with a dial **** can
get bumped and lose the setting.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Corvette Central sells an adjustable resistor (30 bucks) that you can install at the gauge on the dash between your wiring and the gauge. It's adjustable so you adjust it to your IR gun. I've installed one in my car and a friends car and they both work perfectly. And yes, it will go above your initial setting you make, so don't worry about false readings. I set mine at approx. 180 and it will climb if it idles in traffic, and I have checked it with the IR gun while it's hot and it gives the same reading as the gauge. My car will stumble when running hot also, and the gauge will verify it.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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The easiest solution is to get another temp gauge and make a take on/take off mount somewhere in the car so you can see it, and, if necessry remove it when you want. The sending unit can either go in the head, or you can get an adapter that goes in a heater or radiator hose. The modern unit will be accurate and you can leave the origninal in the car for the nit pickers.
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Default How about just getting the correct sending unit?

I am a simpleton, so I like simple solutions.

I had the same problem so I got a Duralast TU-5 at the AutoZone website and my gauge now reads accurately.
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Originally Posted by CaveCreekChump
I am a simpleton, so I like simple solutions.

I had the same problem so I got a Duralast TU-5 at the AutoZone website and my gauge now reads accurately.
You got lucky. I bought four of them and water temp tested all four before installing. Best one was still reading 20+* too high. For lack of a better solution, I live with it. Dave

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Originally Posted by CaveCreekChump
I am a simpleton, so I like simple solutions.

I had the same problem so I got a Duralast TU-5 at the AutoZone website and my gauge now reads accurately.


Sorry Doug, I should have mentioned that this will be the third one that I installed.I just called the local Autozone and they had one Wells TU5 left. Will give it a go this evening.
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The easiest solution is to get an original that is calibrated correctly. Mary Jo sells them.

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Originally Posted by vic z
Driving the C2 around in the hot south Florida summer.The AC is on and getting stuck in traffic.Watching the temperature gauge slowly climbing to 230. Shut the AC off, roll down the widows. I get the car to the house and check out the hoses with the IR gun.Top hose showing 190 deg and bottom showing 165. The sending unit is way off.
Any pictures or ideas where you installed a variable resistor for the temperature sending unit ?
Look here: http://www.corvettespecialtiesofmd.com/faq/faq1.html
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I've heard that Mary Jo and Dewitt's sell calibrated (but expensive) sending units but folks have had trouble with those too it seems. You can use one of those little plastic rheostats with the screw driver adjustment and once its set dab some nail polish on the adjustment to keep it set...
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Originally Posted by vic z
Sorry Doug, I should have mentioned that this will be the third one that I installed.I just called the local Autozone and they had one Wells TU5 left. Will give it a go this evening.
Good luck, I tried that one too plus about 9 others and none of them worked correctly. I spent more than enough on those to buy the one from Corvette Central to begin with, but I was trying to get off cheap. Get the one from CC, and it's over.
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Originally Posted by vic z
Sorry Doug, I should have mentioned that this will be the third one that I installed.I just called the local Autozone and they had one Wells TU5 left. Will give it a go this evening.
It took me a bunch of tries to find a sending unit that worked properly with my gauge. Then I used the same AutoZone Duralast TU-5 in the 454 in my '66 Impala with the same good results.

Obviously, this is a continuing source of frustration, and I hope everyone will report their results as they experiment with different possible solutions.
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Originally Posted by CaveCreekChump
I am a simpleton, so I like simple solutions.

I had the same problem so I got a Duralast TU-5 at the AutoZone website and my gauge now reads accurately.




Well the third one is the charm !! Installed a Wells TU5 and the temp gauge is spot on. Sure is refreshing not having to keep looking at that temp gauge showing faulty readings. Thanks for the tip !
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Originally Posted by vic z
Well the third one is the charm !! Installed a Wells TU5 and the temp gauge is spot on. Sure is refreshing not having to keep looking at that temp gauge showing faulty readings. Thanks for the tip !
Congrats on your success!

The Corvette Specialties link that Jims66 included above makes a good point.There are probably millions of OK sending units screwed into engines in junkyards all across North America.

If the car or truck had a temp gauge, the sending unit may still be worth a try.
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An original AC #1513321 sender is the best replacement, but you have to dig through 60's junkyard engines to find them. I got lucky with mine - it has a Standard ST-6 sender, and it's right on the money. Photo below shows the AC original on the left, and the Standard ST-6 on the right.
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Quick question, it should be 12v at the sender wire ??
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I used a trimpot to determine how much additional resistance was needed.

Then, just added 1/4 watt series resistors, which actually fit inside the cloth wire covering.
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