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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Went to a Ringo Starr concert last nite at the Chastain Amphithearter in Atlanta. Man it was great. Also Gregg Bissonette Rick Derringer Edgar winter Wally Palmar Richard Page and Gary Wright was there. I wanted to get out the Vette and go riding. Lots of Oldies...
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that would be his new All Star Band. I would like to go see him on his tour one of these days
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Excellent It was rumored that Paul Mcartney was going to appear with him for a couple of songs.
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he did show up for his birthday party in NYC
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This is the WRONG VENUE!!! Here we discuss Corvettes.
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Saw McCartney in SF last night. Paul rocked the house .. What a show! . . Three hour performance with no intermission.
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Originally Posted by 4440stevesvette
This is the WRONG VENUE!!! Here we discuss Corvettes.
what do you think people were listing to when these cars were in there prime
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what do you think people were listing to when these cars were in there prime
Yea in the 60s no one could touch those four lads.

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Who Ringo Starr..
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It seems Ringo is the only one with any sense. MaCartney lost it ages ago, if he ever had it (but what a great group they were). Why is Ringo the only one not Sir. If the Queen hates him, he must be doing something right.

To make it legal, I added the exhaust crossover on my low hp 61
(I blocked off the manifold heat riser), the sound is back and a little kick in power for good measure.
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I saw Ringo's show last week for the second time, Outstanding.
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Originally Posted by ps374
Yea in the 60s no one could touch those four lads.
Wrong, wrong, wrong!!
You obviously missed the REAL car music. How about Ronnie and the
Daytonas, Jan and Dean, the Beach Boys, Wilson Pickett (Mustang Sally), Duane Eddy, The Ventures, oh yeah!!
Just what is a Beatle??
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Originally Posted by ps374
Yea in the 60s no one could touch those four lads.
Rolling Stones did a pretty good job of it.
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Originally Posted by 1sttexan
Rolling Stones did a pretty good job of it.
don't get me wrong I love the Stones music and they put on a great show in there 60's but what they have done in there 40+ years at making music the Beatles did it in less then 10 short years. and the other artists mentioned had a couple of good songs but what else did they do and were are they now. The Beatles for ever
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
don't get me wrong I love the Stones music and they put on a great show in there 60's but what they have done in there 40+ years at making music the Beatles did it in less then 10 short years. and the other artists mentioned had a couple of good songs but what else did they do and were are they now. The Beatles for ever
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
don't get me wrong I love the Stones music and they put on a great show in there 60's but what they have done in there 40+ years at making music the Beatles did it in less then 10 short years. and the other artists mentioned had a couple of good songs but what else did they do and were are they now. The Beatles for ever
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Just waxed the Sting Ray (to keep things on topic!)

As for Ringo:

This is an excellent list of thirteen reasons given by John Bryant (a session drummer who has played with artists such as Ray Charles) why Ringo Starr was much more than “an average drummer,” as he is often labelled by music critics.

Always serving the song without showing off, Ringo was an integral and indispensible part of The Beatles. Ringo’s intuitive feel and creative big beat style continues to be hugely influential to contemporary musicians of diverse musical genres, whether they realize it or not. His feel was so consistent and solid that even the drum parts he played for songs in odd time signatures seem simpler than they truly are. Many technically great drummers could never hope to reproduce Ringo’s distinctive style.

Ringo Starr is one of the most consistent, song-oriented drummers of all time. He is the perfect example of a drummer playing economically (without ever overplaying) to make each song as powerful as possible. He has a relaxed, dynamic, and solid feel that even more technically advanced drummers should strive for. His drumming was consistently in-the-pocket, emotive, creative, and musical.

Beyond that, he was always the egoless grounding force of The Beatles, even during the band’s most tumultuous times. John Lennon referred to Ringo as the heart of The Beatles. I honestly do not believe The Beatles would have developed into as musically innovative a band if they had played with any other drummer.


THIRTEEN REASONS TO GIVE RINGO SOME RESPECT
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Ringo Starr, the luckiest no-talent on earth. All he had to do was smile and bob his head. Oh yes, and keep a beat for three of the most talented musicians/songwriters of this century. What other impression could one have when judging the role that Ringo played in the success of the Beatles? Did Ringo really make a difference? Upon listening to the latest release by The Beatles, Anthology 1, you get a chance to listen to Pete Best and two other drummers play on over twenty songs. Was Ringo simply in the right place at the right time? The following items may help in going beyond the image:

(1) Ringo was the first true rock drummer to be seen on TV. All the Rock & Roll drummers featured with Elvis, Bill Haley, Little Richard, Fats Domino and Jerry Lee Lewis were mostly R&B drummers that were making the transition from a swing drumming style of the 40′s and 50′s toward the louder and more “rocking” sound that is associated with “I Want To Hold Your Hand”. They were dressed in tuxedos and suits and held the drumsticks in the “traditional” manner of military, orchestra, and jazz drummers. Ringo showed the world that power was needed to put the emphasis on the “rock” in Rock & Roll music, so he gripped both sticks like hammers and proceeded to build a foundation for rock music.



(2) Ringo changed the way drummers hold their sticks by making popular the “matched” grip of holding drumsticks. Nearly all drummers in the Western World prior to Ringo held their sticks in what is termed the “traditional” grip, with the left hand stick held like a chopstick. This grip was originally developed by military drummers to accomodate the angle of the drum when strapped over the shoulder. Ringo’s grip changes the odd left hand to match the right hand, so that both sticks are held like a flyswatter. Rock drummers along with marching band and orchestral percussionists now mostly play with a “matched” grip, and drum companies have developed straps and accessories to accomodate them.



(3) Ringo started a trend of placing drummers on high risers so that they would be as visible as the other musicians. When Ringo appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show in 1964, he immediately caught the attention of thousands of “drummers to be” by towering over the other three Beatles. Elvis’s drummer was looking at a collection of backs.

(4) These same “wannabe” drummers also noticed that Ringo was playing Ludwig drums and they immediately went out and bought thousands of these drumsets, thus establishing Ludwig as the definitive name in Rock & Roll drums at that time.

(5) Ringo changed the sound of recorded drums. About the time of Rubber Soul (released Dec. 6,1965), the sound of the drumset started to become more distinct. Along with help from the engineers at Abbey Road studios, Ringo popularized a new sound for the drums by tuning them lower, deadening the tonal ring with muffling materials, and making them sound “closer” by putting a microphone on each drum.

(6) Ringo has nearly perfect tempo. This allowed the Beatles to record a song 50 or 60 times, and then be able to edit together different parts of numerous takes of the same song for the best possible version. Today an electronic metronome is used for the same purpose, but the Beatles had to depend on Ringo to keep the tempo consistant throughout the dozens of takes of the songs that you know and love so well. Had he not had this ability, the Beatles recordings would sound completely different today.



(7) Ringo’s “feel” for the beat serves as a standard for pop-rock record producers and drummers alike. It is relaxed, but never dragging. Solid, yet always breathing. And yes, there is a great amount of musical taste in his decisions of what to play and when to play it. In most recording sessions, the drummer’s performance acts as a barometer for the rest of the musicians. The stylistic direction, dynamics, and emotions are filtered through the drummer. He is the catcher to whom the pitcher/songwriter is throwing. If the drumming doesn’t feel good, the performance of any additional musicians is doomed from the start. The Beatles rarely if ever had this problem with Ringo.

(8 ) Ringo hated drum solos, which should win points with quite a few people. He only took one solo while with the Beatles. His eight measure solo appears during “The End” on the “B” side of Abbey Road. Some might say that it is not a great display of technical virtuosity, but they would be at least partially mistaken. You can set an electronic metronome to a perfect 126 beats per minute, then play it along with Ringo’s solo and the two will stay exactly together.

(9) Ringo’s ability to play odd time signatures helped to push popular songwriting into uncharted areas. Two examples are “All you Need is Love” in 7/4 time, and “Here Comes the Sun” with repeating 11/8, 4/4, and 7/8 passages in the chorus.

(10) Ringo’s proficiency in many differen styles such as two beat swing (“When I’m Sixty-Four”), ballads (“Something”), R&B (“Leave My Kitten Alone” and “Taxman”) and country (the Rubber Soul album) helped the Beatles to explore many musical directions with ease. His pre-Beatle experience as a versatile and hard working nightclub musician served him well.

(11) The idea that Ringo was a lucky Johnny-on-the-spot-with-a-showbiz-stage-name is wrong. In fact, when Beatle producer George Martin expressed his unhappiness after the first session with original drummer Pete Best, the decision was made by Paul, George, and John to hire who they considered to be the best drummer in Liverpool – Ringo Starr. His personality was a bonus.

(12) The rumors that Ringo did not play on many of the Beatle songs because he was not good enough are also false. In fact, he played on every released Beatles recording (not including Anthology 1) that include drums except for the following: “Back In The USSR” and “Dear Prudence”, on which Paul played drums due to Ringo temporarily quitting the band, “The Ballad of John and Yoko”, again featuring Paul on drums because Ringo was off making a movie, and a 1962 release of “Love Me Do” featuring session drummer Andy White.



(13) When the Beatles broke up and they were all trying to get away from each other, John Lennon chose Ringo to play drums on his first solo record. As John once said, “If I get a thing going Ringo knows where to go, just like that…” A great songwriter could ask no more of a drummer. Except maybe to smile and bob his head.
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When McCartney was asked if Ringo was the greatest drummer in the world, he said, "He's not even the greatest drummer in our band."
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When McCartney was asked if Ringo was the greatest drummer in the world, he said, "He's not even the greatest drummer in our band."
Ringo was a crappy drummer.But he did fit in with the beatles.Saw them in the sixities at shea stadium
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Ringo was a crappy drummer.But he did fit in with the beatles.Saw them in the sixities at shea stadium
I have a repro poster here on my wall advertising The Beatles first US concert performance on February 11, 1964 at Washington Sports Arena in Washington, DC. The show also featured The Chiffons, The Carravelles, and Tommy Roe.

I was a senior in high school and lived in the area. I didn't go but I remember the excitement.

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