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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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'66 coupe with 327. Crane electronic ignition. Accel coil and wires. Will only start with timing way advanced (25 deg) Will run ok set there but hesitates on acceleration. If I back the timing off to 10 deg it will idle rough and wont restart. Has a Holley 4160 non adjustable carb. Any ideas??
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Sounds like the distributor drive gear is a tooth off. Also check that the drive gear dimple is aligned to the rotor tang.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sokooh
'66 coupe with 327. Crane electronic ignition. Accel coil and wires. Will only start with timing way advanced (25 deg) Will run ok set there but hesitates on acceleration. If I back the timing off to 10 deg it will idle rough and wont restart. Has a Holley 4160 non adjustable carb. Any ideas??
does not sound right..are you sure of the light and you are on #1 plug wire??

even if you may be a tooth off, the fact that you can get it set at 25 or 10 means the dizzy is in phase...

check the weights and advance mech.....
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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It wasn't this way when new so what changed to get your engine to this point, i.e., how long has it been this way ?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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And is this 25 degrees measured with the vacuum advance connected?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Disconnect the vacuum hose from the carburetor, plug the carburetor. Disconnect the hose to the vacuum can. Put the timing light on number 1 plug wire (driver side front of engine). Read timing. Should be close to 8*. Rev motor up to about 2500-3000 and watch the timing tape. It will come up and settle at about 34-36*. If so, timing is close. If not, you are off with the distributor. These are just close numbers as they vary. But are ball park.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 62Jeff
And is this 25 degrees measured with the vacuum advance connected?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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You guys sure do ask a lot of questions.
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Originally Posted by 62Jeff
And is this 25 degrees measured with the vacuum advance connected?
If not connected, take a long hard look at the harmonic damper and check that TDC by it is actual.
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Originally Posted by MikeM
You guys sure do ask a lot of questions.
Well? I'm still waiting.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Well? I'm still waiting.
for what?
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You'll see.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Well? I'm still waiting.

Originally Posted by vt65
for what?

Originally Posted by Mike Ward
You'll see.
Ya'll are a tough crowd ,keep it alive
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
You'll see.
Mikey, are you waiting to see if the OP got his tie hung in the fan blade and that's why he hasn't answered any questions?

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Nope, seeing how long nobody's going to comment on the issue we talked about on VH. C'mon Mike, be a sport and let the poor guy off the hook.

Maybe you're a tooth off?
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Nope, seeing how long nobody's going to comment on the issue we talked about on VH. C'mon Mike, be a sport and let the poor guy off the hook.

Maybe you're a tooth off?
Now that you've sat at the VH's Table of Knowledge, I think YOU should enlighten him.

Personally, I don't think the OP has given enough information for anybody to make an educated guess at what is wrong. Maybe he set fire to it and walked off!
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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I've sat at the table? Maybe so. Wasn't me with the pointy hat sitting in the corner though.

Without stepping on toes, the side discussion was clarifying that the oft quoted 'being a tooth off or indexing the gear' idea is only applicable in cases where the distributor housing cannot be rotated sufficiently to achieve correct timing without causing mechanical interference.

That does not appear to be the case here.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I've sat at the table? Maybe so. Wasn't me with the pointy hat sitting in the corner though.

Without stepping on toes, the side discussion was clarifying that the oft quoted 'being a tooth off or indexing the gear' idea is only applicable in cases where the distributor housing cannot be rotated sufficiently to achieve correct timing without causing mechanical interference.

That does not appear to be the case here.
I don't think you were paying attention when class was in session. Either that or you got hold of some bad hops this afternoon!

Like I said, there isn't enough information to operate on here.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeM
I don't think you were paying attention when class was in session. Either that or you got hold of some bad hops this afternoon!

Like I said, there isn't enough information to operate on here.
You're right that there's not enough information here, but that's compounded by giving incorrect troubleshooting advice.
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald #31176
Sounds like the distributor drive gear is a tooth off. Also check that the drive gear dimple is aligned to the rotor tang.
When there is a can clearance issue. Rotating the drive gear 180 will fix it up. But the dimple is not an indication of correct indexing. I had to turn my dimple 180 degrees from rotor tip. Can is now centered perfectly.
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