Sounds kind of Crazy but "period correct wheel weights"
10-26-2010, 12:20 AM
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Sounds kind of Crazy but "period correct wheel weights"
Just mailed off about 25 "Micro" brand wheel weights in the ounce marking --- not dual with ounce & gram weight on them.
I'm in no way a true restorer, is this the level that judges look at ? The local scrap yard owner here just sent two 5 gallon buckets off to be melted a few days before I asked him about lead weights. He'll be saving them now.
I'm in no way a true restorer, is this the level that judges look at ? The local scrap yard owner here just sent two 5 gallon buckets off to be melted a few days before I asked him about lead weights. He'll be saving them now.
10-26-2010, 01:24 AM
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It's hard to say where it will end ,follow the money will tell the story in time. How fare a future JM will go into detail will set the price down the road .
10-26-2010, 02:02 AM
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Wheel weight prices
I felt kind of bad but I spent about 3 hours going though the 3 one gallon cans of weights I got with a bubble balancer 30 years ago & wire brushing the weights to make sure what i was sending him.
$20 shipped = kind my cost in retirement fun, approx $8.00/hr. 3 pounds of weights.
Business planning-operation is certainly not my forte. it's nice to help someone out. He seemed satisfied.
$20 shipped = kind my cost in retirement fun, approx $8.00/hr. 3 pounds of weights.
Business planning-operation is certainly not my forte. it's nice to help someone out. He seemed satisfied.
10-26-2010, 08:58 AM
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If I remember correctly there was a pretty detailed article in the NCRS Restorer a while back documenting how to date these wheel weights. Not sure if they judge these or not but it does seem kind of extreme.
10-26-2010, 10:26 AM
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In the 1963-67 NCRS JM the wheel weights are Judged.
There was an article in the NCRS Restored about wheel weights. If you are trying keep your point total high, wheel weights are an easy and cheep way to keep your points. Remember in the NCRS all cars start out with 100% of there points, its up to you to try and retain as many points as you can.
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There was an article in the NCRS Restored about wheel weights. If you are trying keep your point total high, wheel weights are an easy and cheep way to keep your points. Remember in the NCRS all cars start out with 100% of there points, its up to you to try and retain as many points as you can.
Bill
10-26-2010, 11:13 AM
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Forgive my ignorance but I'm trying to make some sense (if there's any to be made) of this wheel weight/NCRS thing. Who's to say what weights and how many weights were on which wheels or whether the wheels had any weights at all when it left the factory? Each tire/wheel/car combo would be different, right? It's not something that would be documented on a trim tag or anywhere else on the car, is it?
Why not just submit your car for judging with no weights on the wheels at all? Or do the NCRS judges assume that every car would have had at least a couple of weights on the wheels when it left the factory and, therefore, give a point deduction for having no weights?
I joined NCRS a few months back. I enjoy reading the Driveline and Corvette Restorer and I've learned a lot. I also like getting a discount on publications I buy through NCRS. However, I'm having trouble getting my mind around some of the judging stuff.
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Why not just submit your car for judging with no weights on the wheels at all? Or do the NCRS judges assume that every car would have had at least a couple of weights on the wheels when it left the factory and, therefore, give a point deduction for having no weights?
I joined NCRS a few months back. I enjoy reading the Driveline and Corvette Restorer and I've learned a lot. I also like getting a discount on publications I buy through NCRS. However, I'm having trouble getting my mind around some of the judging stuff.
Thanks,
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10-26-2010, 01:12 PM
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I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO issues with the NCRS judging standards and guidelines. Keep in mind, the standard by which a Corvette is judged, or compared, within the NCRS guidelines for Flight judging, is the way the car was delivered from the factory. I am perfectly OK with that. ACTUALLY, I really enjoy looking at a Corvette (or a Chevelle, or a 56 T-bird, or a 66 HEMI car, or a 40 Ford convertible, or a 51 Hudson, or whatever) that has been VERY correctly restored (or maintained) as it was the very day that the car was first delivered to the customer. It provides a time capsule to allow us to see what was really installed on the car at the factory.
I have NO grief with a modified or personalized car if that's the way the owner wants it. Although, I have seen some cars taken to extremes that are not compatable with my taste. Some of us-----------yes, me included----------want a bigger engine than the original factory installed engine, or bigger tires, or a different color, or a Muncie instead of a heavy cast iron PG tranny. That's fine (and in some cases, better).
Where I DO HAVE lots of conflict is the **** retentive folks that look down their noses at other people who choose to own something that is a little different. That's a politically correct observation. My personal observation of those people is that they can kiss my @--!
Tom Parsons
I have NO grief with a modified or personalized car if that's the way the owner wants it. Although, I have seen some cars taken to extremes that are not compatable with my taste. Some of us-----------yes, me included----------want a bigger engine than the original factory installed engine, or bigger tires, or a different color, or a Muncie instead of a heavy cast iron PG tranny. That's fine (and in some cases, better).
Where I DO HAVE lots of conflict is the **** retentive folks that look down their noses at other people who choose to own something that is a little different. That's a politically correct observation. My personal observation of those people is that they can kiss my @--!
Tom Parsons
10-26-2010, 02:20 PM
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Forgive my ignorance but I'm trying to make some sense (if there's any to be made) of this wheel weight/NCRS thing. Who's to say what weights and how many weights were on which wheels or whether the wheels had any weights at all when it left the factory? Each tire/wheel/car combo would be different, right? It's not something that would be documented on a trim tag or anywhere else on the car, is it?
10-26-2010, 02:36 PM
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Next we will be looking for " period correct " grease, dust,air for the tires, valve stems, and anti freeze will be judged by color and chemical content.
Then of course owners will be required to wear a tag on the car stating " This vehicle not equipped for judging " if you don't have your Bloomington gold certificate proudly displayed.
When I think we have reached the bottom of the " sanity barrel " someone comes along with period correct wheel weights. Next it will be .. Do your speakers sound better on 60s songs vs the current music?
I thought the max wedge and hemi people were way overboard collecting numbers and pentastar designations......... but they could learn a thing or three here.
Then of course owners will be required to wear a tag on the car stating " This vehicle not equipped for judging " if you don't have your Bloomington gold certificate proudly displayed.
When I think we have reached the bottom of the " sanity barrel " someone comes along with period correct wheel weights. Next it will be .. Do your speakers sound better on 60s songs vs the current music?
I thought the max wedge and hemi people were way overboard collecting numbers and pentastar designations......... but they could learn a thing or three here.
10-26-2010, 02:46 PM
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Perhaps the Internet Brands programmers who maintain the corvette forum software could create a list of people who disagree with NCRS, and then anytime someone posts a question about NCRS the forum software could automatically add the signature "The following people think this and the people who follow it, is/are stupid: <name1> <name2> <name3>"
It sure would cut down on the amount grief the NCRS threads seem to give people.
It sure would cut down on the amount grief the NCRS threads seem to give people.
10-26-2010, 03:59 PM
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10-26-2010, 04:06 PM
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10-26-2010, 04:59 PM
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somebody told me that there is a new NCRS judging regulation that stipulates that the tire should be inflated with the original air from the sixties depending on the year of your car-for example if you own a 66 then extra points will be given if you can prove your tires have air from 1966. This is possible to prove using carbon dating techniques yet it costs about $4000 per tire to prove-Is this true???
10-26-2010, 05:58 PM
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The question was asked if the weights were judged and the answer is yes they are judged.
I enjoy this web site but what I don't get is the guys that want to knock the NCRS for the way their judging is set up. If you don't like the game don't play it. Nobdy is telling you what to do with "your" Corvette. There is a lot of knowledge in the NCRS folks and most of them share it with the guys on this web site when they are asked. They don't ask if your car is modified or not they just willing share there knowledge..
Just my 2 cents worth.
I enjoy this web site but what I don't get is the guys that want to knock the NCRS for the way their judging is set up. If you don't like the game don't play it. Nobdy is telling you what to do with "your" Corvette. There is a lot of knowledge in the NCRS folks and most of them share it with the guys on this web site when they are asked. They don't ask if your car is modified or not they just willing share there knowledge..
Just my 2 cents worth.
10-26-2010, 07:13 PM
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I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO issues with the NCRS judging standards and guidelines. Keep in mind, the standard by which a Corvette is judged, or compared, within the NCRS guidelines for Flight judging, is the way the car was delivered from the factory. I am perfectly OK with that. ACTUALLY, I really enjoy looking at a Corvette (or a Chevelle, or a 56 T-bird, or a 66 HEMI car, or a 40 Ford convertible, or a 51 Hudson, or whatever) that has been VERY correctly restored (or maintained) as it was the very day that the car was first delivered to the customer. It provides a time capsule to allow us to see what was really installed on the car at the factory.
I have NO grief with a modified or personalized car if that's the way the owner wants it. Although, I have seen some cars taken to extremes that are not compatable with my taste. Some of us-----------yes, me included----------want a bigger engine than the original factory installed engine, or bigger tires, or a different color, or a Muncie instead of a heavy cast iron PG tranny. That's fine (and in some cases, better).
Where I DO HAVE lots of conflict is the **** retentive folks that look down their noses at other people who choose to own something that is a little different. That's a politically correct observation. My personal observation of those people is that they can kiss my @--!
Tom Parsons
I have NO grief with a modified or personalized car if that's the way the owner wants it. Although, I have seen some cars taken to extremes that are not compatable with my taste. Some of us-----------yes, me included----------want a bigger engine than the original factory installed engine, or bigger tires, or a different color, or a Muncie instead of a heavy cast iron PG tranny. That's fine (and in some cases, better).
Where I DO HAVE lots of conflict is the **** retentive folks that look down their noses at other people who choose to own something that is a little different. That's a politically correct observation. My personal observation of those people is that they can kiss my @--!
Tom Parsons
I have told you time and time, again, to please quit sugar coating your opinions on this Forum.
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10-26-2010, 07:25 PM
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In Noland Ad......."there was a short time frame when the lead pots used in making the SB weights developed a crack and for three days the weights with the large bulges with small stinger stripes were used in their place".
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10-26-2010, 07:37 PM
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Next we will be looking for " period correct " grease, dust,air for the tires, valve stems, and anti freeze will be judged by color and chemical content.
Then of course owners will be required to wear a tag on the car stating " This vehicle not equipped for judging " if you don't have your Bloomington gold certificate proudly displayed.
When I think we have reached the bottom of the " sanity barrel " someone comes along with period correct wheel weights. Next it will be .. Do your speakers sound better on 60s songs vs the current music?
I thought the max wedge and hemi people were way overboard collecting numbers and pentastar designations......... but they could learn a thing or three here.
Then of course owners will be required to wear a tag on the car stating " This vehicle not equipped for judging " if you don't have your Bloomington gold certificate proudly displayed.
When I think we have reached the bottom of the " sanity barrel " someone comes along with period correct wheel weights. Next it will be .. Do your speakers sound better on 60s songs vs the current music?
I thought the max wedge and hemi people were way overboard collecting numbers and pentastar designations......... but they could learn a thing or three here.