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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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Installing that hose will make it run hotter, not cooler - it's taking max-temp coolant from the front crossover passage and feeding it directly into the water pump inlet, back into the block and heads, raising the temperature of the incoming coolant.
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John, why did they install the by-pass hose on the HP motors, if it doesn't enhance cooling?

I had to remove mine to install the thermostat switch for the SPAL fan.

I was concerned about it affecting the cooling.

My car runs plenty cool.

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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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I have sent the gauge out 2 times for recalibration and am told it is working to specs. Could it be the sending unit? the IR reading at the top post (where the wire attaches) of the sending unit is 180?? just sitting here thinking is there a way to test the sending unit? put in in water and heat it on a stove with another gauge attached???
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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And thank you for the help!!!! I need all i can get!!!!
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Red 1959
I have sent the gauge out 2 times for recalibration and am told it is working to specs. Could it be the sending unit? the IR reading at the top post (where the wire attaches) of the sending unit is 180?? just sitting here thinking is there a way to test the sending unit? put in in water and heat it on a stove with another gauge attached???
Howdy!

This technical article will show you how to test the sending unit, and provide insight into testing the guage.
http://www.lbfun.com/warehouse/tech_...g%20gauges.pdf

As a quick test - if your temp gauge always pegs hot as soon as you start the car, it may be a wiring problem, as this is the same result if your temp sending wire at the temp sender, were to be touched to a ground point instead of the sender.

Another quick test - disconnect the temp gauge sending unit wire and measure the Ohms of resistance between the center post on the temp gauge sending unit, and ground. If it is very very close to 0, or 0, the sending unit is bad and internally shorted. The sending unit works by changing it's resistance as the engine heats. up. The hotter the coolant, the lower the resistance. But, it never goes to 0 unless the sending unit is bad. Even an engine operating at 180 degrees should show something in the 120-125 Ohms of resistance at the sending unit at that time.

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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Red 1959
I have sent the gauge out 2 times for recalibration and am told it is working to specs. Could it be the sending unit? the IR reading at the top post (where the wire attaches) of the sending unit is 180?? just sitting here thinking is there a way to test the sending unit? put in in water and heat it on a stove with another gauge attached???

The sending unit is the most likely culprit. You need to buy them froma Corvette supplier. The local flap units don't cut it.

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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sttexan

John, why did they install the by-pass hose on the HP motors, if it doesn't enhance cooling?
I've never found a good answer for that one, but one theory is that it helped overcome pump cavitation under extended high-rpm operation.
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_er
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The hose I installed seems to be contoversial. This hose would be the same as having a heater hooked up only a lot shorter.
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Ah, no, not quite the same.

The heater core is a mini radiator and cooling all the time. You just don't think it is as you are hopefully not directing hot air away from it into the cabin in the summer.

But it is still taking heat out of the coolant.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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Here is something weird. I flushed the system, put water in and the temp stayed at 180??? Put anti freeze back in and it went back to 220???
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Red 1959
Here is something weird. I flushed the system, put water in and the temp stayed at 180??? Put anti freeze back in and it went back to 220???
Not weird at all. Water is a better coolant than an antifreeze mixture.

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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Red 1959
Here is something weird. I flushed the system, put water in and the temp stayed at 180??? Put anti freeze back in and it went back to 220???
What kind of anti-freeze are you using, and what anti-freeze/water mix ratio are you using?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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It is a 50\50 mix of Prestone.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Red 1959
It is a 50\50 mix of Prestone.
There's no way you'd show a 40* difference between straight water and a 50-50 mix of anti-freeze and water - you have other issues. The temp gauge can't be "calibrated" by itself - it has to be calibrated with the sending unit it's going to be used with, especially if the sending unit has been replaced.

You need to compare an I.R. gun "shot" of the upper radiator hose just above the thermostat housing vs. the temp gauge at the same time so you know what the gauge is really telling you; they're notoriously inaccurate.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Just to think outside the box for a moment if you are trying different things on your cooling system and chasing your tail maybe it is scale build up that is an issue. What condition is your block and cooling system. Scale/rust will have an adverse affect on cooling and accuracy of sending units. If interested there are some nice water scale solvents that are safe for aluminum and copper that are not harmful. It might be worth doing. check the internet,automotive supply, some plumbers carry some. Just be sure it is not harmfull to soft metals and rubber products before using not all is good.
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