Frankie the Fink

Paul - can't say if the window felts slow your windows down but anything is possible I guess...I do know that Mike Coletta spent some time getting things all aligned properly with the door posts and front channel so maybe its worth looking into.

Here are the WRONG conduits Paragon sent me....I can't imagine what they go to but they are not going to work on the vette due to the shortened length.
Eclker's doesn't carry the correct conduit outside of their power window kit so I can't drive over and get them. P!sses me off as I wanted everything back together for some Veteran's Day activities.

Fawndeuce

That sucks, not sure how long mine are, but when the door is open all the way, the end of the channel does not reach into the door post.
I'd take a pic for you, but i don't have the car with me.



Paul

QIK59

Don't want you to miss the parade - why don't you bend up some little "U" piece extensions and braze them onto the Paragon conduits ?
Just like the old hot-rod car guy days : adapt, fabricate, make what you can't buy - I do it all the time

As far as window speed - maybe Mike uses a resistor in the power feed to give a more refined / luxurious operation for those high dollar resto-mod customers

Fawndeuce

I had no idea there was a show in Bonita Springs Bill, I would have gone for sure, especially had I know you were going to be there.
I'm here for another week, anything else going on?
I'm going to try for Kissimme again in Jan, hard to believe tat it's only a couple of months away!



Paul

Frankie the Fink

As most forum members know I fabricate plenty -- "old school" on the floor of my garage with a mallet, vice grips and a hacksaw. I don't weld, braze nor have such equipment. The 4-5 times I've needed something welded I've had buddies that do it. Besides the Paragon conduits have door flanges (where the screws go) that are some bigger than the factory Corvette conduits and I'm not gonna cut the wrong size hole in the door just to "cobble" something together as you suggest.

I'll prob stick the car back together with the windows temporarily down for the veteran's day show.

There is no resistor in my SPW windows and they are quite fast...I'll post a video of their operation when I finally get them finished up.

First bad experience I've had with Paragon but they've compounded the error now and that's enough to take them off my 'short list' of Corvette vendors.

Frankie the Fink

I dunno -- the switches don't look all that bad when everything is put back together and I didn't have to buy door sheet metal. The switches and the plugs on the back of them fit nicely in the pre-existing crank handle holes.

mike coletta

I like it Frank!!!! Good job!!! What's the deal with those conduit??? Is Paragon sending some different ones??? Do we need to make something??? BTW, those conduits that Paragon sent you look like something that they pulled from the yard. The repros are red oxide primer, and don't have the "dog poop" welds. They look like they are "blue".

Mike

Frankie the Fink

The conduits they sent are definitely used - Paragon 'claims' that SPW sent them to them. Belair or Impala conduits maybe. Too short for a '61 by a mile...

I've got the 'real deal' conduits coming from Paragon Monday so, no, we don't need to make anything (as far as I know!)

QIK59

Yes you are correct; the switch's don't look too bad at all.
If you didn't know any different you would assume they are original equipment.

I also "lay down corrected" about the use of resistors - I have subsequently been told by a highly respected car builder that "resistors don't do anything to a motor except cut the voltage".
I guess the ones I've seen connected to heater motors are installed in the heater duct simply to prewarm the heater air.

62Jeff

Frank those look identical to the ones from my 1956 Oldsmobile 98, including crappy welds, which I have in front of me.

Frankie the Fink

'56 Olds huh? Well those conduits have to be from a car with doors that don't open as wide as a Corvette or else have thicker doors. Probably some poor soul out there dying to find a pair of originals and now they'll sit on my shelf in the garage. Maybe I'll take 'em up to Daytona Turkey Run swap meet and see if I can unload them.

JohnZ

That resistor, in conjunction with the blower speed switch, determines the speed of the blower motor; it's installed in the outlet duct so the airflow can cool the coiled resistance elements, which can get very hot.

QIK59

No "poop" John !?
You missed my humour there LOL !

No one wanted to comment to my original quote about the resistor not doing anything for a motor other than dropping the voltage

Frankie the Fink

We are all trying to get over the 'lay down corrected' reference. Sounds like some sort of bondage thing.

I'm not sure that's an image I want to retain...

firstgear

Looks like it was always there! Nice job

mike coletta

How do you think the motor speed changes???? LOL. The resistor "drops the voltage". You still "lay down corrected". The original post subject is power WINDOWS.....not FANS. When you chop the voltage to the motor, you also affect current flow, which will reduce the torque of the motor, and will.........aw, what's the point. You're the expert fabricator, so you already know all of that.

Mike Coletta

BTW,
John Hinkley said:That's because "that's all it does" !!!! LOL!!

QIK59

You stayed up until 4 am to come up with this ??

cbernhardt

One would imagine that a "retired nuclear mat'l inspector", "damn good self taught wrench", and "excellent designer & fabricator" would know this.

QIK59