TheSaint

jimmies63. Are you sure that you have a STV valve from a 1963?
To the left is a STV valve from a 1964 and it is not looking like the one on your 1963. I thought that 1963 and 64 was the same

1964 STV valve to the lft and the one on your car to the right

1967 STV/POA valve to the far right(if my pictures is correct)I know that the 1964 STV valve is correct since it is the same in the assembly manual

ac63corvette

The ac ducts are a little different from the 64-66 . Some times the plastic is a little to the gray side and the ball retainers have the screws positioned a little differently, some f the early 63s has a different plastic for the ducts, it is vary brittle and quite gray. Dash bezels do not fit correctly as they were produced for the 63 pick up trucks, If they lay flat as you would expect, they were made by trim parts. Dick Miller and I discussed this before he reproduced them. We decided this would be a way to identify bogas cars in the future. My originals were used as samples. 63 blower motor has a pin not a blade connector and the compressor has a stamped plate on it the embossed number escapes me.The compressor mount is stamped steel similar to 63 passenger cars but quite different. The vary early cars may have been delivered with the passenger compressor mounts. I was doing really close conversions 40 years ago as were some people I knew. Also the air ***** can be different, Some did not have the divider bar on the lower section. Early cars had a passenger car txv valve. The dash cluster is ether second design or third design they have 2 slots for the head light switch. The hood release handle has a longer mount to clear the duct, and the H2O tank mounts higher. There are other differences but I will need to think about it .

jimmies63

When we got the whole thing apart, the earliest dated parts I could find were the blower motor and heater core and they both had 10/66 date codes. I am reasonably satisfied that the car was converted some time ago and was not a prototype. Though this is a factory air system, it does not appear to be factory installed. It is staying in as part of the restoration, too much work and expense to remove it.

I got the name of one of the earlier owners but have been unable to locate him though he is apparently still around the Chattanooga area. If I ever find him, I might get more info on how it got in there.

fogaley

Jimmie, in the 63 Assembly manual or later models in the C60 AC section dosent it show that the non AC heater core big square hole in the firewall was enlarged or reshaped for the AC cars. It didnt have to be for the AC to fit but thats what they did. So if the AC firewall was different and your car had that difference would that not add to your findings of originality. The midyears Ive seen with AC added have not had this heater hole modified. Just hoping your right and trying to help. Scott

jimmies63

Where is the opening enlarged? On my car it is enlarged where the heater core is and we have the cover plate there for the ac.

JohnZ

The template that was used to enlarge the core opening and the blower opening is in your Assembly Manual - section C60, sheet 7.00.

TheSaint

The opening is quite big for factory AC and especially the right hand side plenum with the vent duct/box
This is how it is on my factory AC car

jblack223

I have a 63 SWC with March build date. It has a perfect example of factory air. This is a numbers matching car with powerglide, PS, PB, PW, no date knock off wheels, AM radio. I have replaced the heater core as well as the evaporator core. It still uses R12. I have the original STV as well as associated hardware. I opted for the upgrade valve for practical purposes. I dont really care about geting some certification by NCRS. To many experts there. I have worked on this car to enjoy and preserve. It was a Texas delivered car and is still in Texas. I am enclosing some pictures of my A/C for critique.

jblack223

I have become disinterested in this car because all of the bickering on detail and have decided that if it is not right it does not need to exist at all. I have been told the rare wheels are incorrect but worth quite a bit, the A/C is not right, however is it the best not right you will ever see. So i assume it is an undesireable auto to the experts in charge.

deejaydu

So what do you mean when you say that you are disinterested in your car. Are you selling it or parting with just the wheels? This car looks like one a friend of mine from Clear Lake, Texas use to own. Is this possibly the same car.

rtruman

You will regret that its a real interesting car to say the least , nice color and red interior
very desirable plus AC ,power steering .Don't let anyone tell you different they are jealous .Hold on to that one.

jblack223

As far as I know this car has been in Texa for sometime. could you identify this car?

jblack223

older pictures

jblack223

some more

jimmies63

What's not right? The AC? Define right. I've had many experts examine my car and we have torn it apart nut and bolt. It falls outside the date range of a C60 option code by date, but all the parts are there and they are old, and it is a factory AC system. My BIL bought it 32 years ago as a 'factory prototype AC car' with most of the parts yanked out and the car set up for racing. Yeah, I've heard all the urban myth, but you can't explain the unmolested condition of the dash and the components are in there. I restored it as a factory AC car. Undeniable.

As far as the wheels, what's not right? Peter Brock's new book (he designed a lot of the car) features a red split window with knock-offs!
I'm going to put knock-offs on mine this summer. If you don't want them on your 'not right' 63 AC car, I'll buy them for mine! PM me if you are serious.

deejaydu

I will send you a PM.

Jay

vettebuyer6369

What does this mean? The car is for sale? You are going to part it out? Who exactly is "in charge?" Sounds like you are letting someone get to you.

Was there an issue about the VIN tag being riveted?

TheSaint

I think the car looks really great
Not to mention all the nice options the car came with

TheSaint

Moved from "How many '63 roadsters & split window coupes left?" to this post

UPDATED! The box on the picture to the right is for a 1967 i think. Sorry for this

The 1963 have a AC evaporator box like on the picture to the left

Different evaporator housing on the 1963

black223. After what i found out the 1963 have a one off evaporator hosing that does have a bracket welded to the box.
The bolts(see arrows)that sits on the evaporator lid for attaching the bracket for the STV valve does not sit on the same location on the 1963 evaporator housing/lid
This is what i think is correct for the 1963 but others here knows much more about this than me

To the left is a picture of the regular 1964-67 AC assembly

On the picture to the right is the AC assembly with the evaporator housing only used on 1963 or early 1963

See the arrow for the bracket that is on the 1963 only. The bolts(see red arrows)are not located on the same place for the 1963 as it is for the 1964-67.
You can see it when comparing the location of the bolts on the pictures

jimmies63

Thanks for the post. I checked mine. I have the bracket and the bolt, but I do not appear to have the nib.

If that is a 63 only feature, then that would suggest I've got 63 evaporator box. Which would be consistent with the rest of the install.