63 AC Pics
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63 AC Pics
Anybody seen one? Any idea how these pics compare? The motor is out and I can get some decent shots.
This is my Oct 62 car with factory air that is 'impossible to be factory' because they didn't do it back then (only Harley's car!)
Keep in mind the position of the pipes may just be where they stuck them 30 years ago when they put the racing motor in and took out the compressor.
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This is my Oct 62 car with factory air that is 'impossible to be factory' because they didn't do it back then (only Harley's car!)
Keep in mind the position of the pipes may just be where they stuck them 30 years ago when they put the racing motor in and took out the compressor.
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If that is the heater pipe face on the firewall.....
Then no. There is a pick of that area of the firewall showing the heater core pipes coming out besifde that.
But keep in mind if this was done at the factory it was a prototype before they went to production. I would not expect this to be the exact same as they started installing in May 63. The dash however, appears to be perfect and we can't figure out how they did that with donor parts after the fact.
But keep in mind if this was done at the factory it was a prototype before they went to production. I would not expect this to be the exact same as they started installing in May 63. The dash however, appears to be perfect and we can't figure out how they did that with donor parts after the fact.
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If that is the heater pipe face on the firewall.....
W bought it many years ago as an ac car. Long after the ac was removed. Now we're getting around to restoring it. Even back then they told us it ws a protype and I am not going to give up on investigating that until it is reassembled.. The dash does not look to have been part. Working out all the angles. Would have been a lot of work 40 yrs ago to bother making it look factory.
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40 years ago it was a 10 year old car. A lot can and does happen to the first 10 years of a car's life.
Keep in mind that in your various threads, corvette experts and even one member of the National Corvette Museum's Hall of Fame, have told you that A/C cars weren't being produced yet when your car was built. Nor were prototypes.
Good luck in your search for data, but I believe the facts have already been presented to you.
Keep in mind that in your various threads, corvette experts and even one member of the National Corvette Museum's Hall of Fame, have told you that A/C cars weren't being produced yet when your car was built. Nor were prototypes.
Good luck in your search for data, but I believe the facts have already been presented to you.
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Anybody seen one? Any idea how these pics compare? The motor is out and I can get some decent shots.
This is my Oct 62 car with factory air that is 'impossible to be factory' because they didn't do it back then (only Harley's car!)
Keep in mind the position of the pipes may just be where they stuck them 30 years ago when they put the racing motor in and took out the compressor.
This is my Oct 62 car with factory air that is 'impossible to be factory' because they didn't do it back then (only Harley's car!)
Keep in mind the position of the pipes may just be where they stuck them 30 years ago when they put the racing motor in and took out the compressor.
Since I have a real one, I'll go compare your pictures tomorrow when it is warm outside.
But Oct 62, it is a snowball's chance that it was an engineering car and I'm sure John can give you more info on that.
Jeff has the more likely scenario.
It is like the '63 fuellie AC coupe owned by a guy I used to know.
I never did know if it was originally an AC car, a fuellie car, or none of the above. Since you have to remember these cars were worth as low as $1500 back around 1970, originality was not a thing anyone worried about. They drove them, wrecked them, hot rodded them, raced them, stole them, rebuilt them, and did whatever anyone wanted.
I've told people before, if you found an early '60s Cadillac in a garage from the '70s, odds are 90% or more of it is original.
If you find an early '60s Corvette in a garage from the '70s, odds are 90% or more of it is non-original.
40 years ago it was a 10 year old car. A lot can and does happen to the first 10 years of a car's life.
Keep in mind that in your various threads, corvette experts and even one member of the National Corvette Museum's Hall of Fame, have told you that A/C cars weren't being produced yet when your car was built. Nor were prototypes.
Good luck in your search for data, but I believe the facts have already been presented to you.
Keep in mind that in your various threads, corvette experts and even one member of the National Corvette Museum's Hall of Fame, have told you that A/C cars weren't being produced yet when your car was built. Nor were prototypes.
Good luck in your search for data, but I believe the facts have already been presented to you.
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I'll give up eventually....
..... If I can't validate the origin by the time it is reassembled, it becomes a 'factory-style' air car instead of an air car. Until my b-I-l passed away I was into boats. Now I am back into cars and it is kinda fun. A 63 swc might be a tough car to start on, but when I am done it will turn heads. Thanks to all who are helping me out. I am picking up a lot and if I ever really learn something I will share it back.
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Here is a picture for you. The only thing i do not know which year this car is
It looks like the heather hoses opening on your car will be covered by the heather pipes plate
It looks like the heather hoses opening on your car will be covered by the heather pipes plate
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Well that is pretty interesting. Look at the bolts on my 63 sticking out of the firewall where that cover plate around the heater hose would be. Everything about the evaporator box is the same too. Any you are saying this is a 63/64?
That is an awful lot of detail on a cheap retrofit on what was a cheap car back in the 70's. Not only did they use correct factory parts, but they recreated the hardware on the inside of the firewall?
Sure would be nice to get an exact vintage. Anyone recognize what might be the car year here?
That is an awful lot of detail on a cheap retrofit on what was a cheap car back in the 70's. Not only did they use correct factory parts, but they recreated the hardware on the inside of the firewall?
Sure would be nice to get an exact vintage. Anyone recognize what might be the car year here?
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Like I said someone before you found a wreaked mid year in a bone yard that had AC and took everything needed to convert there non AC car. stuff like that happened all the time
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I cant say for sure but i think this picture is of a 1964
Well that is pretty interesting. Look at the bolts on my 63 sticking out of the firewall where that cover plate around the heater hose would be. Everything about the evaporator box is the same too. Any you are saying this is a 63/64?
That is an awful lot of detail on a cheap retrofit on what was a cheap car back in the 70's. Not only did they use correct factory parts, but they recreated the hardware on the inside of the firewall?
Sure would be nice to get an exact vintage. Anyone recognize what might be the car year here?
That is an awful lot of detail on a cheap retrofit on what was a cheap car back in the 70's. Not only did they use correct factory parts, but they recreated the hardware on the inside of the firewall?
Sure would be nice to get an exact vintage. Anyone recognize what might be the car year here?
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Found this on the net about he first factory AC Corvette C2
The earliest serial number air conditioned Sting Ray has a production build date in October, about 6 months before the rest of the A/C cars.
It seems the owner was a GM executive who had the car returned to Chevrolet for refitting with A/C
But what about this 1963 dealer installed AC unit before? It have been discussed on the forum before:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...963-coupe.html
Ad to the car that have the dealer installed unit:
http://www.vettefinders.com/index.cf...e-for-sale.htm
The earliest serial number air conditioned Sting Ray has a production build date in October, about 6 months before the rest of the A/C cars.
It seems the owner was a GM executive who had the car returned to Chevrolet for refitting with A/C
But what about this 1963 dealer installed AC unit before? It have been discussed on the forum before:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c1-a...963-coupe.html
Ad to the car that have the dealer installed unit:
http://www.vettefinders.com/index.cf...e-for-sale.htm
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Found this on the net about he first factory AC Corvette C2
The earliest serial number air conditioned Sting Ray has a production build date in October, about 6 months before the rest of the A/C cars.
It seems the owner was a GM executive who had the car returned to Chevrolet for refitting with A/C
The earliest serial number air conditioned Sting Ray has a production build date in October, about 6 months before the rest of the A/C cars.
It seems the owner was a GM executive who had the car returned to Chevrolet for refitting with A/C
Can you share the link to that quote please?
