non ethonal fuel
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non ethonal fuel
there was a mention here in the past / anyone know stations that sell non ethonal gasoline? today I topped off with shell V8 super 93 octane not sure though of ethonal content . also used some fuel stableizer . car ran well 3 more months to go and winter is over !
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Fairly easy to find here in upstate NY. If you're ever up here, look for the Nice and Easy convenience stores; many of them have 1-2 pumps with conventional fuel. Cost was about $.30/gal more than ethanol blended gas.
Looks like quite a few marinas across NY have it too:
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=NY
Looks like quite a few marinas across NY have it too:
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=NY
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There's a website somewhere that allegedly lists stations that sell non-ethanol gasoline, but I wouldn't hold my breath or go out of my way to find it; non-ethanol gas is just about extinct. We've had E10 gas here in Michigan for the last 25 years, with no issues (unless the rubber hoses in your fuel system are over 25 years old).
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Non ethanol gas is available all over MN..
Boat motors, small engines, and antique autos hate the ethanol blended stuff. I made the mistake of putting 10 gallons of ethanol blended gas in my '62 on the way home from a meet. After sitting for about 2 months in the garage, the rubber failed in the fuel pump. The rubber hoses in the gas line to the carb also failed. Gas leaked all over the garage floor and seeped into my basement. Lucky the house did not blow up. Lesson learned, never again will I use that crap.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations for non-ethanol gas.
Good luck.
Boat motors, small engines, and antique autos hate the ethanol blended stuff. I made the mistake of putting 10 gallons of ethanol blended gas in my '62 on the way home from a meet. After sitting for about 2 months in the garage, the rubber failed in the fuel pump. The rubber hoses in the gas line to the carb also failed. Gas leaked all over the garage floor and seeped into my basement. Lucky the house did not blow up. Lesson learned, never again will I use that crap.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations for non-ethanol gas.
Good luck.
Last edited by 6242; Jan 7, 2013 at 04:11 PM. Reason: clarified
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Non ethanol gas is available all over MN.. Boat motors, small engines, and antique autos hate the stuff. I made the mistake of putting 10 gallons in my '62 on the way home from a meet. After sitting for about 2 months in the garage, the rubber failed in the hose and fuel pump. Gas leaked all over the garage floor and seeped into my basement. Lucky the house did not blow up. Lesson learned, never again will I use that crap.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations.
Good luck.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations.
Good luck.
Are you saying that non-ethanol gas is the problem? That is the way your post reads.......
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Non ethanol gas is available all over MN.. Boat motors, small engines, and antique autos hate the stuff. I made the mistake of putting 10 gallons in my '62 on the way home from a meet. After sitting for about 2 months in the garage, the rubber failed in the hose and fuel pump. Gas leaked all over the garage floor and seeped into my basement. Lucky the house did not blow up. Lesson learned, never again will I use that crap.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations.
Good luck.
Many states have web-sites giving station locations.
Good luck.
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Here in the Detroit, MI area, most of the majors, like Shell & Mobil, aren't labelled as containing ethanal, so what I use. Some of the lesser brands are labelled as E10, and are little bit cheaper, but stay away from those. Not sure if this is conclusive, but Shell & Mobil smell like pure gas, and what I use. Another thing to consider, is fuel additives used. I was using BP in my snow blower, and while I figure it's good fuel, something in it, was stinking the garage out. Switched to Mobil, and ok after that.
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Sorry about that. Corrected the post above.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
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Sorry about that. Corrected the post above.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
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Sorry about that. Corrected the post above.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
The ethanol blend did the damage to the fuel pump. The diaphragm was like mush. And yes, it was my fault for not changing out the old parts, and putting the wrong gas in the tank. That's the price I paid for keeping it original and making a dumb mistake.
Can you help me explain this?
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6242,
Thanks for the clarification.
Please ignore the "Mikes", since they obviously live in separate (small & remote) parts of North America that does not have the same issues as you and I.........and will try to persuade any one who has had a problem with it, imply that we are (take your pick): ignorant, dumb, stupid, don't know what we are talking about, crazy, a raving loony, etc., etc.............
Obviously the OEMs changed the rubber and plastics for no good reason (according their logic), when E10 (ethanol) was mandated by the feds.........
Plasticman
Thanks for the clarification.
Please ignore the "Mikes", since they obviously live in separate (small & remote) parts of North America that does not have the same issues as you and I.........and will try to persuade any one who has had a problem with it, imply that we are (take your pick): ignorant, dumb, stupid, don't know what we are talking about, crazy, a raving loony, etc., etc.............
Obviously the OEMs changed the rubber and plastics for no good reason (according their logic), when E10 (ethanol) was mandated by the feds.........
Plasticman
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Non ethanol fuel
had an old 1950's airplane, and it definitely did NOT like the alcohol.... the engine, (Lycoming 0320) was FAA approved for auto gasoline, but only without alcohol. I ran it that way for about 400 hours with no probs.
Here is a source for ethanol free gasoline. Not too sure how up to date it is, but it will get ya started in the right direction...
http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp
Here is a source for ethanol free gasoline. Not too sure how up to date it is, but it will get ya started in the right direction...
http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp
Last edited by Jayemcee; Jan 7, 2013 at 05:12 PM. Reason: missed a comma
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6242,
Thanks for the clarification.
Please ignore the "Mikes", since they obviously live in separate (small & remote) parts of North America that does not have the same issues as you and I.........and will try to persuade any one who has had a problem with it, that we are (take your pick): ignorant, dumb, stupid, don't know what we are talking about, crazy, a raving loony, etc., etc.............
Plasticman
Thanks for the clarification.
Please ignore the "Mikes", since they obviously live in separate (small & remote) parts of North America that does not have the same issues as you and I.........and will try to persuade any one who has had a problem with it, that we are (take your pick): ignorant, dumb, stupid, don't know what we are talking about, crazy, a raving loony, etc., etc.............
Plasticman
As far as the "take your pick" name calling, I don't see that as appropriate as many people seem to believe what they read on the internet and a lot of those internet legends are festered and perpetrated right here.
It is very popular for shops to tell you what you want to hear when they say "it's that crappy gas again". Simply a convenient method/means for them to cover their a.. when they don't/can't fix something.
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And from your posts, only "you are" are right?
Obviously our experience does not matter (in your mind).
And I should of said "imply" (I changed it in my post above).
Plasticman
Obviously our experience does not matter (in your mind).
And I should of said "imply" (I changed it in my post above).
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E10 might be big news to you and the rest of the swampdwellers, but it's been a fact of daily life (and pretty much a non-event) for most of the continent for 20-30 years or more. Most people didn't know or didn't care that they were using it, or frequently had no idea what 'gasahol' was.
This is sort of a deja vu all over again for me- I remember when lead free gas became widely available. Overnight, every issue every car had was the fault of the unleaded gas. Of course here we are 30 years later and there's still those that believe it to be true........
My spies tell me that this was seen on your street the other day. Did you get any bruises when you fell off?
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Except that the change in materials happened 20+ years ago, not just recently when E10 was mandated by the feds for nationwide sale.
E10 might be big news to you and the rest of the swampdwellers, but it's been a fact of daily life (and pretty much a non-event) for most of the continent for 20-30 years or more. Most people didn't know or didn't care that they were using it, or frequently had no idea what 'gasahol' was.
This is sort of a deja vu all over again for me- I remember when lead free gas became widely available. Overnight, every issue every car had was the fault of the unleaded gas. Of course here we are 30 years later and there's still those that believe it to be true........
My spies tell me that this was seen on your street the other day. Did you get any bruises when you fell off?
E10 might be big news to you and the rest of the swampdwellers, but it's been a fact of daily life (and pretty much a non-event) for most of the continent for 20-30 years or more. Most people didn't know or didn't care that they were using it, or frequently had no idea what 'gasahol' was.
This is sort of a deja vu all over again for me- I remember when lead free gas became widely available. Overnight, every issue every car had was the fault of the unleaded gas. Of course here we are 30 years later and there's still those that believe it to be true........
My spies tell me that this was seen on your street the other day. Did you get any bruises when you fell off?
Last edited by MikeM; Jan 8, 2013 at 01:00 PM.
