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Need a little help from the experts I have a 66 roadster with 327 4 speed with engine code HR all numbers match vin on the car but everything I look up says an HR code is with powerglide this appears to always have been a 4 speed , no sign of any cooler line fitting in radiator or linkage changes etc. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated , Thanks
Need a little help from the experts I have a 66 roadster with 327 4 speed with engine code HR all numbers match vin on the car but everything I look up says an HR code is with powerglide this appears to always have been a 4 speed , no sign of any cooler line fitting in radiator or linkage changes etc. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated , Thanks
HR is base engine, powerglide, with California K-19 A.I.R. smog system. There is no "cooler line" fitting in the radiator for p/glide, as all small blocks used the same radiator. The p/glide cars had a separate small Harrison air-air heat exchanger in front of the radiator that circulated hydraulic fluid from the trans through this unit. Pic of my 'HR' '66 engine pad below.
HR is base engine, powerglide, with California K-19 A.I.R. smog system. There is no "cooler line" fitting in the radiator for p/glide, as all small blocks used the same radiator. The p/glide cars had a separate small Harrison air-air heat exchanger in front of the radiator that circulated hydraulic fluid from the trans through this unit. Pic of my 'HR' '66 engine pad below.
OK yes I forgot about the external cooler, but if that's the case someone went to great lengths to hide the fact it was ever a p.g. never have looked under a powerglide 66 but is the x member and exhaust mount and all that the , boy this thing sure looks like it was a 4 speed from day one , I guess its possible is there anny telltale thing I could look for?
Need a little help from the experts I have a 66 roadster with 327 4 speed with engine code HR all numbers match vin on the car but everything I look up says an HR code is with powerglide this appears to always have been a 4 speed , no sign of any cooler line fitting in radiator or linkage changes etc. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated , Thanks
If the front block stamp pad looks typical, including the VIN derivative stamp, it was born a Powerglide K-19 and has been converted to a 4-speed at some point. If it was a Powerglide to start with, there will be two Rivnuts in the front side of the lower crossbar of the radiator support where the Powerglide trans fluid cooler was mounted. Got a good close-up hi-res photo of the stamp pad?
Your trim tag won't tell us anything, as you have a black interior, so the body-affecting options aren't coded.
If the front block stamp pad looks typical, including the VIN derivative stamp, it was born a Powerglide K-19 and has been converted to a 4-speed at some point. If it was a Powerglide to start with, there will be two Rivnuts in the front side of the lower crossbar of the radiator support where the Powerglide trans fluid cooler was mounted. Got a good close-up hi-res photo of the stamp pad?
Your trim tag won't tell us anything, as you have a black interior, so the body-affecting options aren't coded.
Thanks John Ill check that and get a photo of the ID pad Thanks
If the front block stamp pad looks typical, including the VIN derivative stamp, it was born a Powerglide K-19 and has been converted to a 4-speed at some point. If it was a Powerglide to start with, there will be two Rivnuts in the front side of the lower crossbar of the radiator support where the Powerglide trans fluid cooler was mounted. Got a good close-up hi-res photo of the stamp pad?
Your trim tag won't tell us anything, as you have a black interior, so the body-affecting options aren't coded.
That's my HR block, John, not that of the original poster. I attached the picture for mddawg to compare to his engine.
If the front block stamp pad looks typical, including the VIN derivative stamp, it was born a Powerglide K-19 and has been converted to a 4-speed at some point. If it was a Powerglide to start with, there will be two Rivnuts in the front side of the lower crossbar of the radiator support where the Powerglide trans fluid cooler was mounted. Got a good close-up hi-res photo of the stamp pad?
Your trim tag won't tell us anything, as you have a black interior, so the body-affecting options aren't coded.
here is the stamp number and it does have the rivnuts so I guess somebody swaped in a 4 speed
OK yes I forgot about the external cooler, but if that's the case someone went to great lengths to hide the fact it was ever a p.g. never have looked under a powerglide 66 but is the x member and exhaust mount and all that the , boy this thing sure looks like it was a 4 speed from day one , I guess its possible is there anny telltale thing I could look for?
I’m surprised no one suggested looking at the Muncie numbers. A ’66 should have a 3885010 main case, which would be easy to obtain but also check the serial/date stamp (P….) and see if it has a VIN derivative stamp. It’s possible to get a date correct Muncie but the VIN stamp is probably not correct or missing. This is probably the second biggest tell-tale sign after the engine pad.
Other tell-tale signs would be the routing of the speedo cable. A powerglide cable routes on the left side would have come with a cable clip on the left side of tunnel and no clip on the right side – see if one has been added on the right and how it was attached? The 4-speed cable routes on the right side and enters the firewall at a different location. Look at your AIM to see the differences in location and firewall plugs.
I’m surprised no one suggested looking at the Muncie numbers. A ’66 should have a 3885010 main case, which would be easy to obtain but also check the serial/date stamp (P….) and see if it has a VIN derivative stamp. It’s possible to get a date correct Muncie but the VIN stamp is probably not correct or missing. This is probably the second biggest tell-tale sign after the engine pad.
Other tell-tale signs would be the routing of the speedo cable. A powerglide cable routes on the left side would have come with a cable clip on the left side of tunnel and no clip on the right side – see if one has been added on the right and how it was attached? The 4-speed cable routes on the right side and enters the firewall at a different location. Look at your AIM to see the differences in location and firewall plugs.
Good info thanks , Ill check those things out, I guess fortunately its a friends car and I'm just doing the work ,he's had it since 86 but hasn't been driven since 91, he bought it used so hard telling what happened , not doing a concours restoration more of a driver but replacing and rebuilding everything. Thanks
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