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Race Director
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From: northern california
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A few decades back Terry vacationed at the Gray Bar Hotel for a while. If I knew this and nothing else about him, I'd be reluctant do business with him.
Team Owner
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From: Washington Michigan
I've dealt with Terry many times over the last 20 years, and have never had an issue - he's always been straight-up with me. It's been my experience that most folks who diss Pro Team (or Terry) have never dealt with them, but are parroting what someone else said - some folks can't resist "piling-on" when the opportunity arises.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
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Instructor
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From: Houston Texas
Safety Car
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From: APO AE
I've dealt with Terry many times over the last 20 years, and have never had an issue - he's always been straight-up with me.
no disrespect meant, but how one Corvette Icon deals with another Corvette icon is often different than how they treat a wet behind the ears green horn.
Not all, but some.
ESPECIALLY if their bu$ine$$ is $elling expen$ive car$.
I doubt you could be fleeced on a car... but I know I could.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Texas-out west
why kind of car are you looking at buying?? true he visited graybar hotel but it appears he has redeemed himself and from what I can tell he has been an asset to the hobby gathering cars, high dollar yes of course, but with good paperwork, close inspection etc. his cars are probably as good as any and he does buy quite a few at auctions. good luck and talk to him before you rule him out.
Last edited by LT1driver; Oct 8, 2014 at 03:48 PM.
Drifting
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From: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Iowa
Instructor
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From: Schererville IN
I bought a car from ProTeam a few years ago, when they still had the big inventory. It was fun, impressive, and very educational to walk thru such a vast and diverse collection. Visited there a couple of times, but didn't see what I wanted. Months later, I got a call from Terry saying that he had two cars coming in that seemed to meet what I was looking for. I went there two weeks later, and the cars had just been brought in. They didn't even know yet exactly what they had received. I had one inspected by someone far more knowledgeable than me, and assessed what was there. Terry hadn't even put a price to the car yet as it had just arrived. We negotiated a price that we were both happy with. The car has been great, and most importantly has turned out to be what we thought it was and what we priced it to be.
I have read the less than favorable opinions here over the years, but my experience was great. As everyone has said in different ways, if you are an informed buyer you won't be taken advantage of and have nothing to fear. Good luck in your search!
I have read the less than favorable opinions here over the years, but my experience was great. As everyone has said in different ways, if you are an informed buyer you won't be taken advantage of and have nothing to fear. Good luck in your search!
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Le Mans Master
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From: WV
They are in the business of selling cars to make a living. It does not matter if your selling cars, houses, furniture etc. there are good and bad.
My only experience of talking to him was at Carlisle last year. I was walking saturday afternoon and saw him just hanging around in a trailer and I walked up and asked him if I could pick his brain about a car I found. He answered my questions and wanted to know where I was from (of course I didn't exactly say). He told me he would buy it if he was in my shoes. I thanked him for his time and walked away.
My only experience of talking to him was at Carlisle last year. I was walking saturday afternoon and saw him just hanging around in a trailer and I walked up and asked him if I could pick his brain about a car I found. He answered my questions and wanted to know where I was from (of course I didn't exactly say). He told me he would buy it if he was in my shoes. I thanked him for his time and walked away.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
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From: Mint Hill North Carolina
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Melting Slicks
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From: Tallahassee fl
I find the best way to deal with any of these dealers is to not only ask questions about the car you like but others. Then ask comparison questions.
They almost always have low, mid, and high end cars. Asking simple things like... why is this car 80k when this one is 60k? Usually this gets the sales guy to explain in detail what's what.
My Dad had a pro team car. He didn't buy it from Pro team but had all the documentation from when the car was at Pro Team. I went through the car top to bottom and it was properly listed and IMO sold for a fair price for what it was.
They almost always have low, mid, and high end cars. Asking simple things like... why is this car 80k when this one is 60k? Usually this gets the sales guy to explain in detail what's what.
My Dad had a pro team car. He didn't buy it from Pro team but had all the documentation from when the car was at Pro Team. I went through the car top to bottom and it was properly listed and IMO sold for a fair price for what it was.
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Smyrna/Vinings, Georgia
I've dealt with Terry many times over the last 20 years, and have never had an issue - he's always been straight-up with me. It's been my experience that most folks who diss Pro Team (or Terry) have never dealt with them, but are parroting what someone else said - some folks can't resist "piling-on" when the opportunity arises.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
known Terry long time, no issues.
Team Owner
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Army
I think the top classic Corvette dealers have learned that their business can live or die on its reputation. The customer base that buys $35,000-$125,000 C1/C2 Corvettes is not that big a universe of folks. Word-of-mouth is important...in such an environment.
Many generic classic car dealers (and there are more than a few in Central Florida) are in a different genre, have a much broader customer base, and adhere to the three "F"s of the business:
1) Find 'em
2) F*ck 'em
3) Forget 'em
Many generic classic car dealers (and there are more than a few in Central Florida) are in a different genre, have a much broader customer base, and adhere to the three "F"s of the business:
1) Find 'em
2) F*ck 'em
3) Forget 'em
Safety Car
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From: PHOENIX AZ. WHAT A MAN WON"T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE
T.C. is one of Terry's sales people. He has been there for years & knows Corvettes. They are car salesmen people nothing more. The Corvette speaks for itself wither you buy from a dealer or private owner. I have found that dealers lie less but will the you less than a private person. Know what you are buying & buy what you know.
Race Director
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From: I'm not doing as well as I expected, but I never expected I would
I've dealt with Terry many times over the last 20 years, and have never had an issue - he's always been straight-up with me. It's been my experience that most folks who diss Pro Team (or Terry) have never dealt with them, but are parroting what someone else said - some folks can't resist "piling-on" when the opportunity arises.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
That said, these are expensive used cars - hire an expert to evaluate the car for you.
Le Mans Master
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From: Chattanooga Tennessee
slightly off topic, but I recommend Greg Wyatt at vintagecorvettes.com, in Summerville, GA. I have zero affiliation. However, Ratdog bought his '67 from him and Greg paid shipping both ways to fix a shifter of all things after Steve took delivery. That says lots. Last year I drove the hour to visit his showroom/shop/grass airfield, and called first to let him know I was coming with my FIL and was not a buyer. He spent over an hour showing us his place and discussing the cars and airplanes he's restored. He is meticulous about everything he has, down to the crevices at this facility. I believe he carries the some of the best inventory around, mostly restored Top Flight cars with newer certification and also some great survivors. I take a skeptical view of ALL cars for sale, but I like what I've seen and heard about that outfit. FWIW.
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I will make one general comment.
If you are buying a vintage car, its up to you, and no one else, to be informed enough to buy a car thats right for you. You need to be as educated and prepared as possible, and if buying a car like this is out of your comfort zone, its up to you to get the assistance you need.
It is not up to the seller to ensure you buy a great car or make a nice deal.
This is true of every single seller. People will commonly say that dealers' prices are higher than private parties. However, its also true that its much easier for private parties to shrug their shoulders and say, "uh, I dunno" when the hard questions come. Pro Team or any other Corvette dealer cannot say to you, "um, I believe the numbers match, I think."
Dealers do not have the market cornered on dishonest sales. Private parties are pretty good at it too, and have less to lose.
My point is this: it does not matter where the car is or who is selling it. Take the responsibility to inspect and identify the car you want, and determine what the price should be. If its not the right car or the right price, walk away. There's lots of cars for sale.
If you are buying a vintage car, its up to you, and no one else, to be informed enough to buy a car thats right for you. You need to be as educated and prepared as possible, and if buying a car like this is out of your comfort zone, its up to you to get the assistance you need.
It is not up to the seller to ensure you buy a great car or make a nice deal.
This is true of every single seller. People will commonly say that dealers' prices are higher than private parties. However, its also true that its much easier for private parties to shrug their shoulders and say, "uh, I dunno" when the hard questions come. Pro Team or any other Corvette dealer cannot say to you, "um, I believe the numbers match, I think."
Dealers do not have the market cornered on dishonest sales. Private parties are pretty good at it too, and have less to lose.
My point is this: it does not matter where the car is or who is selling it. Take the responsibility to inspect and identify the car you want, and determine what the price should be. If its not the right car or the right price, walk away. There's lots of cars for sale.
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Instructor
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From: Houston Texas
slightly off topic, but I recommend Greg Wyatt at vintagecorvettes.com, in Summerville, GA. I have zero affiliation. However, Ratdog bought his '67 from him and Greg paid shipping both ways to fix a shifter of all things after Steve took delivery. That says lots. Last year I drove the hour to visit his showroom/shop/grass airfield, and called first to let him know I was coming with my FIL and was not a buyer. He spent over an hour showing us his place and discussing the cars and airplanes he's restored. He is meticulous about everything he has, down to the crevices at this facility. I believe he carries the some of the best inventory around, mostly restored Top Flight cars with newer certification and also some great survivors. I take a skeptical view of ALL cars for sale, but I like what I've seen and heard about that outfit. FWIW.