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I am a relatively new member. I am looking to make a purchase and looking for some feedback. Has anyone dealt with, or have any knowledge of Pro-Team in Napoleon, Ohio?
Much advice has been given on the subject of buying a classic car from a classic car dealer such as Pro Team. Please educate yourself about these cars, beforehand, with the books that cover ALL the details of each year. It is best to have a knowledgable C-1 or C-2 person go over the car of your choice. There are happy customers and those who didn't do their homework. Dennis
As stated above educate yourself or better yet hire an expert to inspect the car before you sign to buy . You will probably pay more and get less from a dealer ( someone has to pay the overhead ) Bigger dealers usually have more overhead and more advertising costs .
Learn all the corvette catch phrases like " Matching Numbers " " Correct " They can be deceiving .
I purchased a Corvette from them years ago. Was a good, real and correct car. The main advantage is the size of their inventory....they also ask premium prices. That said, you have to know what you are buying and what to look for that tells you about the quality, originality, history (if you get it) and real condition of the car. I had my car examined by an independent corvette expert before I bought, I checked with the shop that restored it and confirmed the history of the car....it also had 6 NCRS Top Flights with documentation, photos of the resto, etc. So, I had a lot of info to make me comfortable about the purchase and only then did I close the deal. They are used car salesmen and, in my experience, will use the usual tactics. Just be sure you know the facts about the car....don't buy on impulse because it looks nice. Know what it is worth in market. Take someone else with you who is more knowledgeable than you. Good luck.
Make sure you go and look at it!!! Take someone with you that knows them inside and out most dealers tell you one thing and it turns out not to be true. It is worth the money now to pay someone to look at it. Numbers match doesn't always mean original it means restamp, ask if it is the original engine and have them put it in writing. I like to let the dealer talk and see what he has to say then you can see what kind of dealer you are dealing with. I just looked at a 63 Cp and he said he saw it stripped and it had all original fiberglass and in reality the whole front was replaced, hood included with non press mold fiberglass. I told him what I thought of him and left.
Everyone is giving you great advice ,DO IT! I don't know why many early C1's I see have repro serial tags , ask them why if you find one and want to know why.
Also, when they "know" its matching numbers, they use specific language to convey that... Matching numbers REAL DEAL, kind of stuff.
When its a restamp, or they have a pretty good idea/know its not the original motor to the car, they use different language... "Matching numbers, appears to have the correct numbers... etc etc.
They are professionals at what they do. Chances are, the pictures you see of their cars will be the best possible portrayal of the car car that they can.
Also, they usually put a condition in the description C1, C2, C2+ etc for Condition
If it doesn't have one of those... than you can bet its a 3, 3- or 4.
$60K spent with a private seller will get you a lot more than $60K spent with "the pros".
If you are a savvy buyer, whose done his homework, and, can negotiate you'll get a nice car at a fair price and they'll gladly take your money.
If you are a naive, compulsive buyer with Corvette fever, and, a fat wallet, you may or may NOT get a nice car, pay too much and they'll gladly take your money.
Same as every other dealer. I met a guy at a car cruise that bought a '59 from them on a whim and as he was proudly showing me his car and mentioned the price I had to keep the expression of shock off my face. The car had so much wrong with it that it would take well into 5 digits to straighten it all out - the fella was clueless.
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Originally Posted by DC10
I am a relatively new member. I am looking to make a purchase and looking for some feedback. Has anyone dealt with, or have any knowledge of Pro-Team in Napoleon, Ohio?
If so, please PM me.
Thanks
Listen to these people as it is ALL sound advice. I have bought & sold to Terry & Fred over the years.
If you are a savvy buyer, whose done his homework, and, can negotiate you'll get a nice car at a fair price and they'll gladly take your money.
If you are a naive, compulsive buyer with Corvette fever, and, a fat wallet, you may or may NOT get a nice car, pay too much and they'll gladly take your money.
Same as every other dealer. I met a guy at a car cruise that bought a '59 from them on a whim and as he was proudly showing me his car and mentioned the price I had to keep the expression of shock off my face. The car had so much wrong with it that it would take well into 5 digits to straighten it all out - the fella was clueless.
Wise advice. I am trying to avoid becoming the compulsive buyer. So far, I'm doing okay, but wondering if I am (a) too picky in what I want; or (b) unreasonable in what I should expect to pay. .
Unfortunately (or fortunately), I've already walked away from two handshake deals. For the time being, I will keep looking for what I want...and hopefully not overpay.
Thank you. I am a NCRS member and will contact them. I sent a note to the NCRS 1965 Team Lead, but had not heard back. Hopefully, one of the chapter members will respond.
This thread has more positive opinions of Pro Team than I think I've read on these forums in my entire time here.
T. Michaelis Corvette has been selling in various formats since the 70s and if you are really interested just Google Terry Michaelis and read the info over the years, lots of it looks like cut/paste from Keisler Transmission articles. Current inventory is a shadow of prior volumes and there can certainly be jewels there. Prices are always high and as always the buyer MUST proceed with due diligence
Yes they have sold off a lot of inventory over the last couple of years. One auction I was watching on tv was full of Pro Team cars. Sorry, I can't remember which one. They seem to be concentrating on more special and unusual cars now instead of volume. The last time I was through his buildings there was a lot of what I would call normal or regular Corvettes. Lots of them needed help to be nice. There were the high end cars too. Now it seems that the lower end stuff has been sent on down the road.
There are VERY few classic Corvette dealers where I hear some glowing reports from buyers. Conte Corvettes and Corvette Mike are two examples.
I have dealt with many including ProTeam and Corvette Mike. I can offer a 100% thumbs up report for Corvette Mike, he is the real deal, good to work with, honest and keeps his word
I have posted this before, but for the benefit of the OP, I'll repeat it. About 8 years ago when I was looking to buy a C2, I was very interested in a ProTeam 64. I called to get some questions answered, and the salesman said he wanted my email address first before we could talk about the car. When I asked why, he said he was going to email me a form to fill out, and I had to give him my credit card info. He would then take 100 dollars from my card, and then he would talk to me. If I bought the car, the 100 bucks would go toward the purchase price of the car.......if not, Pro Team keeps my 100 dollars. Decor.......plus banishment from the forum keeps me from repeating my response to him, but lets just say I'm not a big ProTeam fan
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