63 headlight motor dash switch
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I believe the tabs on the switch are mounted on the back side of the cluster panel as in the these two pics. Gives a nice flush mount of the switch in the notch. Can't remember where I read that but it sticks in my gray matter somewhere.
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I figured it out DZVette and you are right about the tab placement....embarrassing.
The real problem though was my recto-cranial inversion
The real problem though was my recto-cranial inversion
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You got me on that
...just went out and looked at mine and its like you posted...
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Frankie....this is why I dont have the car.......I want to be able to build them the way I want to.....not because someone says that it isnt right......enjoy my friend!
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BTW - the split window you sold me took a very high regional NCRS Second Flight award last week. Of course, it had excellent 'bones' to start with
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If the judges told FtF that the switch was installed wrong, they misspoke. An owner can do anything he wants on his car. The judges evaluate conformity to typical factory production standards. FtF entered the meet to find out what deviations from the norm his car had. No one should tell anyone that things are wrong with their car, but I know some do. Or owners mis hear.
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I should have been clearer -- the judges stated on the judging sheet that the switch was NTP (Not Typical Production) and they were right. Of course they aren't allowed to use terms like "wrong" or "incorrect". Its explicitly covered in the Judging Reference Guide.
I just wanted to know how to get the switch straightened out and didn't intend to incite an NCRS debate.
I just wanted to know how to get the switch straightened out and didn't intend to incite an NCRS debate.
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If the judges told FtF that the switch was installed wrong, they misspoke. An owner can do anything he wants on his car. The judges evaluate conformity to typical factory production standards. FtF entered the meet to find out what deviations from the norm his car had. No one should tell anyone that things are wrong with their car, but I know some do. Or owners mis hear.
If the tabs of the switch are behind the dash, it's installed correctly. If they are visible, it's installed incorrectly. It's as simple as that, regardless of terminology.
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I've been an observer several times but never judged for the NCRS but have for many other venues. Regardless, typical or not-typical factory production were phrases created to be "politically correct" and not offend the thin skinned. If you put your valve cover decals/stickers in the middle of your windshield, which one would you prefer, incorrect or NTFP? They are both accurate.
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I put the switch back on hastily when I removed the Detroit Speed headlight motor conversion for judging - its not required with that upgrade so it was tucked behind the dash for a year or so. That's what I get for not paying attention.
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Unlike many other things in life, there is no political correctness issue here. This discussion concerns NCRS judging. And again, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the process the more you write. Yes, you can have parts incorrectly installed all over your car by design or mistake. It is your perogative. But it is not the job of an NCRS judge to tell you what is right and wrong, only about any deviation from the production standard. I judged a 65 that had the license light installed before the rear license bezel like FtF had his on a thread here just before the meet. I did not tell the owner the installation was wrong. I said it was NTP. If he had asked me before I was judging his car, I would have told him it was wrong and suggest he disassemble and reinstall correctly. But the discussion here concerns NCRS judging process so I did not say right or wrong, or suggest the owner do anything. It was possible he liked his light that way (though I don't think he did the way he head-slapped himself when I pointed it out during score sheet review time).
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Wow - somebody else had that bezel wrong ? Between that -- discovering my headlight switch was on wrong as well as my glove box door I'd say the judging gig paid off.
Interestingly, the judges pointed out very faint signs of silver overspray...W-A-Y up underneath the antenna hole and W-A-Y up forward on the inside of the front valence.
The car may have been silver at some point in its life...not correct per the trim tag however.
Interestingly, the judges pointed out very faint signs of silver overspray...W-A-Y up underneath the antenna hole and W-A-Y up forward on the inside of the front valence.
The car may have been silver at some point in its life...not correct per the trim tag however.
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