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Old May 1, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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I was changing the plugs in my 63 last week and the plug wrench touched the battery and arced. I have absolutely no power anywhere.
A friend came over with some type of fancy tester. After about an hour he felt that it was the starter. He then changed his mind and said it was the ignition switch. He got some weird readings while testing. He was getting power from the frame and the battery was putting out 16 volts.
I installed the ignition switch today and initially I had power. When I turned the key I got a click and then back to no power. All fuses look ok.
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Its impossible for the battery to put out 16V - your first clue your friend's approach is less than optimal...
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Old May 1, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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I thought that too. After the winter, the battery was totally dead. This was my first winter with a working clock. I figured that is what drained it. I charged it and kept it on a float charger ever since.
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Do you have a battery cutoff on it? If not clean cables and tighten.

Put a test light on the battery and wiggle cables .
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I would suspect the battery first - how have you confirmed its good ?
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It has been a bad month with the car After the battery was charged, I started/ran the car five or six times. All was fine. Then one day the car ran real rough. I thought a float might have stuck in the carb. After some tinkering,(tapping it with a hammer) I got it running. After all of the cranking, I thought I could smell gas in the oil and the plugs
were a little black. That;s why I changed the plugs. In answer to your question, the battery seems fine. It's a ten year old Optima. Once I get thru this mess, I will look at replacing it
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if you've killed that Optima then you can't just throw the garden-variety charger on it you... You have to trick it to charge it by putting another battery in parallel with it or some such nonsense.. Others will know more.
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After it was charged, it seemed to work fine. Car cranked as normal, after running for a few minutes, amp stayed straight up. I must have started it 8-10 times. If it starts OK and amp is OK, I thought that the battery was OK
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you've killed that Optima then you can't just throw the garden-variety charger on it you... You have to trick it to charge it by putting another battery in parallel with it or some such nonsense.. Others will know more.

Many low-amp trickle chargers or maintainers will not commence to charge a fully discharged non-flooded cell batteries unless put in parallel with another at least partially charged battery to "start the juices flowing" so to speak. It's the charger that needs the tricking.


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If all you did is touch the positive battery terminal with a grounded wrench I doubt you did any damage to anything other than the battery. Probably got a good spark.
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Battery was charged with a commercial charger. I only use the float charger when the car sits for a while
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when it arced, it was a quick spark and the plug wrench stuck to the battery tray. The whole episode lasted a few seconds
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If you have no lights, horn, radio, etc. (forget starting the car for now) then you have bad battery connections, a bad battery or you've burnt up a wire somewhere...its that simple. So. let us know if the horn blows..that's one connection that doesn't go through the bulkhead connector.

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When the guy was probing with the tester the horn and radio would work when he played with the key. That why he thought it was the switch. I can't see any visable flaws in the harness.
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The horn has zip, nada, zilch to do with the key or the ignition switch or the starter...does it work now or not ? I don't trust any test your friend did I'm afraid.
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don't know if it makes a difference or not , but the horn is wired to a button under the dash
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don't know if it makes a difference or not , but the horn is wired to a button under the dash
It does... I was trying to determine if your battery is healthy and see if the bulkhead connector is involved in the issue - if your wiring is non-stock then I can't be of much help.
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Thanks for your help Frank. I have feeling I will end up having the car towed to my mechanic. Dread the thought of seeing my car on a towtruck
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Thanks for your help Frank. I have feeling I will end up having the car towed to my mechanic. Dread the thought of seeing my car on a towtruck
Your classic car insurance or AAA will cover the cost of a tow and you'll prob find out its something simple...

Just for grins I'd charge that battery overnight and take another stab at starting the car in the morning -- nothing to lose
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Install a new battery and go from there
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