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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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I have a 62 Corvette, 4 speed MUNCIE, and a new Hurst Competition Plus shifter. Linkage was set up on the bench, and has been inspected several times to ensure every thing was correctly assembled. The problem is that it is extremely hard to get into reverse. Sent car to a very good shop. Removed trans again, installed hydraulic clutch kit. Reassembled Hurst linkage. Still very hard to shift into reverse. It doesn't want to pull over to the left. Has anyone out there encountered this problem? I'm stumped. Help!!! Phil62
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Was it properly lubed? A new shifter can be a little tight. Are you putting it into 1st, then attempting reverse. Are the rods aligned correctly? It's possible to flip a rod, not sure which one thou. Dennis
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluestripe67
Was it properly lubed? A new shifter can be a little tight. Are you putting it into 1st, then attempting reverse. Are the rods aligned correctly? It's possible to flip a rod, not sure which one thou. Dennis

Hi Dennis, Yes to all of the above. It's just unnaturally tight and hard to engage reverse. Thanks
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Is it hard to put into reverse with the engine off as well? If so, then I don't think the shifter is adjusted correctly (notch aligned in true neutral and rod length adjusted correctly).

As Dennis stated, are the rods installed correctly and not binding (not allowing the shifter to come back into true neutral)? If you have a lot of slop in the rod pins / bushings, that could prevent it to return to neutral, and new bushing may be the solution(I always use the metal versions, rather than the "quiet" plastic type).

Or there is someting truely "wrong" with the shifter.

Note that I have a Hurst that requires the shifter to be pressed down, in order to shift into reverse, but that is not the Hurst Competition Plus (mine is Hurst Super Shifter, which I don't think is availabe any more - although Hurst does offer the Super Street shifter for the C1 Vettes).

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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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I have two Hurst Competition Plus shifters on different cars and both take a good deal of effort to pull over into the reverse gate. I think that's intentional by design. The resistance is probably from a spring that you might be able to clip a little to lighten it - been awhile since having one apart.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I have two Hurst Competition Plus shifters on different cars and both take a good deal of effort to pull over into the reverse gate. I think that's intentional by design. The resistance is probably from a spring that you might be able to clip a little to lighten it - been awhile since having one apart.
I have two of them as well and I have to basically hit/slap the handle in order to get it into the the reverse gate. The spring is VERY strong by design. Also, Hurst shifters in Corvettes have very short handles (8"-10") compared to many other cars so you don't have the leverage to overcome that spring.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1snake
I have two of them as well and I have to basically hit/slap the handle in order to get it into the the reverse gate. The spring is VERY strong by design. Also, Hurst shifters in Corvettes have very short handles (8"-10") compared to many other cars so you don't have the leverage to overcome that spring.
this is my experience as well.
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Old Sep 14, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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I agree with DansYellow66 and 1snake. I have one in my 61 and when other people drive it they all tell me they can not get it into reverse.
You really have to force it into the reverse gate.
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it has to be slapped towards your leg.
You can't get into by accident.
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My experience as well. The short-stick Hurst in my '61 takes a bunch of effort to overcome the spring for reverse. In my '65 GTO, which has the same shifter it's a piece of cake, because the stick is almost twice as long. Not a lot of leverage with the short stick.
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To test the leverage issue you could make an extension for the shifter with a coupling nut and some all-thread. Add your shift **** and see if it works better with an added 2-3-4 inches. Make sure it doesn't interfere with the steering wheel.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 12:51 AM
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Mine is the same as others have described too...I have to get pretty rough with it to get it into reverse. I thought it was just mine being sticky, but now it sounds like the norm too.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GTOguy
My experience as well. The short-stick Hurst in my '61 takes a bunch of effort to overcome the spring for reverse. In my '65 GTO, which has the same shifter it's a piece of cake, because the stick is almost twice as long. Not a lot of leverage with the short stick.
same problem with my 5spd... I had to change the stick to one that is 2" longer in order to navigate the gates.

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You said you have a muncie. Maybe I am missing something, but on the Hurst website, there is no comp plus shifter or kit for 57-62 with a muncie, but only with a borg warner T-10.
They do have the super street though, which will fit the muncie.

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You didn't mention the effort involved when the unit was "set up on the bench." Is the shift lever now rubbing against the transmission tunnel cover? If so, enlarge the hole.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by skids
You said you have a muncie. Maybe I am missing something, but on the Hurst website, there is no comp plus shifter or kit for 57-62 with a muncie, but only with a borg warner T-10.
They do have the super street though, which will fit the muncie.
Hurst probably doesn't list a hurst for a Muncie, probably because there never was an OEM Muncie in a 57-62; but obviously the C2 hurst for a Muncie fits a Muncie in a 57-62.

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Old Sep 16, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Thanks to all of you for your input. It seems that my problem is not unique. I especially like the extension experiment. I am going to try that. Phil62
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Hurst has no reverse lock out like the stock shifter does. Can you imagine if reverse was too easy and you were stopped at a light behind the guy who thinks he is in first gear when he is really in reverse

As others have said spring resistance is a built in feature, but friction is another thing. It certainly won't hurt to re check the shifter rod alignment. Sometimes 1 turn of the reverse rod can make a huge difference. I went through this with mine and that solved it.
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if you have the removable stick you can always use a longer stick


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My 57 Gasser has a T10 with a Hurst Competition Plus shifter.
Have a few inches between the shift ball and the roll bar and to get it into reverse a quick slap is required.
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