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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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We are having a car show at the Virginia Bach Convention Center. They had an auction going yesterday afternoon and this 63 was a no sale. I got there after this car was bid on. I was told the last bid was $110,000. Here are a couple of pictures, it is a very nice car with the 340 engine. I do not have any interest in this car, just passing on the information.
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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How much for the Corvair? Man you don't see many of them around anymore. Vega, Monza and a whole bunch of other cars that you seldom see.

Very nice looking SWC. Thanks for post the picture and information.
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 09:47 AM
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i know a guy that uses a sweet little red FACTORY 350 dead stock Monza coupe as a parts chaser for his long time Corvette project......lol...........
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QUOTE=Black 03 Z06;1593505303]How much for the Corvair? Man you don't see many of them around anymore. Vega, Monza and a whole bunch of other cars that you seldom see.

Very nice looking SWC. Thanks for post the picture and information.[/QUOTE]
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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The stamping on the stamp pad looks pretty new to me. Just my$0 .02 worth

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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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I don't know what the corvair sold for or if it sold. One guy who had been there for the entire auction said there were a lot of no sales, kind of like the big auctions.
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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We see plenty (maybe too many) Corvairs down here in Florida. My Dad loved those and I had to drive many in my youth off his car lot as my commuter ride. Learned to hate them...especially the early ones with the spark plug gasoline cockpit heater. Who thought that up!

I have to wonder what the split window owner thought was his magical price...$125K ? $150K ? Its not a fuelie and with a Top Flight 6 years back a lot of the correct stuff might have taken a walk - it happens....

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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
We see plenty (maybe too many) Corvairs down here in Florida. My Dad loved those and I had to drive many in my youth off his car lot as my commuter ride. Learned to hate them...especially the early ones with the spark plug gasoline cockpit heater. Who thought that up!

I have to wonder what the split window owner thought was his magical price...$125K ? $150K ? Its not a fuelie and with a Top Flight 6 years back a lot of the correct stuff might have taken a walk - it happens....
I believe it was Ralph Nader whom assisted in the demise of the corvair....
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 12:48 PM
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I believe it was Ralph Nader whom assisted in the demise of the corvair....
That's correct. Nader's book "Unsafe at any Speed" was an indictment of the Corvair and damaged the sales, but then, so did the intro of the Mustang, the failure of gas prices to increase in the 60's, and finally Chevy giving up on the Corsair and introducing the Camaro. The Corvair was never going to be able to compete with the Mustang.

FWIW, the Nader book was debunked, and Ralph even shows up at Corvair get-togethers. He just needed an issue to make his name when he was young and cooked the "facts" to paint a sensational picture that allowed the press to elevate his notoriety.
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Plenty of Corvairs in California, still running around. The early cars had camber issues on hard turns, if the tire pressures were not attended to. From '64 up, suspension upgrades with an anti-sway bar completely eliminated the 'deadly handling' that Nader cried about. Nothing wrong with these cars, IMO...Nader made up 'facts' and 'data' similar to the way William Randolph Hearst did to sell papers and gain wealth and power. I never cared for morally bankrupt scumbags like either of those two guys.....
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Originally Posted by GTOguy
Nothing wrong with these cars, IMO...Nader made up 'facts' and 'data'
IIRC, He's never had a driver's license either.
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The Volkswagen of the day had the same type of suspension as the ‘rollover happy’ corvair, yet the hippies and counterculture loved the ‘peoples’ car.
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Originally Posted by colo63sw
The Volkswagen of the day had the same type of suspension as the ‘rollover happy’ corvair, yet the hippies and counterculture loved the ‘peoples’ car.
Even further OT; '64 was the last year for swing axles. '65 -'69 Vairs had fully independent rear suspension similar to the Corvette's.

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Originally Posted by colo63sw
The Volkswagen of the day had the same type of suspension as the ‘rollover happy’ corvair, yet the hippies and counterculture loved the ‘peoples’ car.
And the same type of 'horizontally opposed", air-cooled engines..IIRC.
I remember MikeM stating he could change a Corvair clutch in 45 minutes (in his younger days). I said that sounded unbelievable -- I was wrong (which I found out after some research)!
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Corvair used a tele column quite similar to Corvette.
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Don't blame Ralph Nader.

GM screwed up big time when they hired private detectives to investigate his sexual orientation. GM made Ralph a hero.

James Roche was accused of harassing witness and Roche's testimony before congress was a media circus.

Roche testified that to the best of his knowledge the “investigation initiated by GM, contrary to some speculation, did not employ girls as sex lures, did not employ detectives giving false names…, did not use recording devices during interviews, did not follow Mr. Nader in Iowa and Pennsylvania, did not have him under surveillance during the day he testified before this subcommittee, did not follow him in any private place, and did not constantly ring his private telephone number late at night with false statements or anonymous warnings.”

GM turned a young lawyer into an American folk hero.

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Originally Posted by CrossedUp
Even further OT; '64 was the last year for swing axles. '65 -'69 Vairs had fully independent rear suspension similar to the Corvette's.
Funny that you should mention VWs. Ironically, THEY were the most dangerous car of the time period - but not because of the suspension. Data has shown that REAR collisions more often than not killed the occupants. Why? Because the seat bolts were not strong enough to allow for the seats to remain bolted to the floor during a collision. If a rear collision, the occupant would be sent rearward toward the sloping rear glass and break his/her neck. Later VWs beefed up the seat bolts, but those early ones......
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