Finally I'm sending my 65 to the painter this week. I want to go with rally red but my wife and daughter are worried about the red being to orangish. Is this something to worry about or can the painter use a coat under it to keep the orangeish color from coming out?

Thanks,
58n65

 

I am not a painter, but i have seen and heard of shops tinting the primer to aid in the coloration. Dennis

 

Thanks Dennis. I'm not a painter either. I need to run it by him.

Thanks,
Dex

 

I've owned a couple of Rally Red's. Never noticed any orange coming out. They don't change color from exposure if you base/clear coat.

 

If it has to be the original color, work with your painter on tint. If not, choose a Red that does not have orange in it. In the Corvette family of reds - you have Victory Red which is a dark rich red and Torch Red (kinda like a lipstick red).

I went with Victory Red to avoid any possibility of an Orange glow.....

Alot of the RestoMod fols use Viper Red or the Porsche Guards Red.

You have options if you are willing to change from Rally Red.
If it has to be Rally Red - the painter can play with the formula a tad for you.

Good luck

 

I just finished a 65 rally red coupe and I did a bit of experimenting with the sealer color. We shot three test panels using red, gray, and white sealer under PPG Envirobase rally red and PPG solvent based clear. The differences were amazing. The red vs white sealer was like two different colors. I ended up using white sealer because it really makes the red "Pop" in the sun. I suggest that you try the same process and pick the one you like. I don't know what paint you are using, but PPG makes several clears and that can make a difference as well.

Doc

 

That's a good thought. Do you have a picture of yours?

Thanks,
Dex

 

Thanks!!! He's actually going to use PPG paint. I can pass this info on to him. So the white sealer is what he needs to use?

Thanks,
Dex

 

Rally red beautiful colour, definitely no orange hues

 

'65 rat,

That's how I want this one to turn out. That is perfect!!!

Thanks,
Dex.

 

Rally red beautiful colour, definitely no orange hues[/QUOTE]

That is gorgeous beyond words.

My Rally Red '65 is jealous of your car's paint.

 

My 65 FI coupe is painted the Rally Red using PPG base/clear. No orange to it, but if you see if right after it's sprayed you may think it was bright orange. After cured its red, but had some anxiety when it was first sprayed but its red, and once wet sanded and buffed the red is amazing!

 

Beautiful car!!!

It's probably the lights but your car and '65 rat's car look a different shade of red....again it's probably the lights.

Thanks,
Dex

 

Rally Red or ANY other reds will look orangish under incandescend lighting.

To see what your colour REALLY looks like..... View it on a sunny day 3 hours after dawn and/or 3 hours before sunset.

"Taught to me by my artist/art teacher Father".

 

Thanks....I learned something new. I guess that's why I've seen some of the Rally Red cars look orangish.

Thanks,
Dex

 

Also, red colors will look more orange during the "golden hour" when the sun is setting and reflects more yellows and less whites.

Most colors look odd under incandescent lighting, and vary under mercury oxide or halide lamps, but you don't paint your car to look good under lights.

 

Dex,

I paint for a living and the color of the sealer in this particular scenario is not going to make that much difference....depending on how the paint is applied.

NOW.. "Why is that?" do you ask.

Well..here it goes. In the industry grey sealer has been chosen and different levels of 'darkness' so-to-speak to be used as an undercoat. It is basically the current standard. BUT....here is the funny thing about this.

Also in the industry...we painters can use a 'spray-out card'. which is usually a specially made piece of paper that has back and white checkers on it.

This spray-out card is what I use to find out how many coats of my paint it will take to FULLY COVER the black and white checkers so I can not see them....so.

If I know that 3 coats will make it so I can not see any 'ghost' squares. then I have achieved full color saturation. SO...if the color is the same on BOTH the black and white checkers...the color of sealer DOES NOT MATTER.

Because some colors are weak in pigment strength and coverage...and using a lighter colored sealer CAN effect how it looks when put into intense sunlight.

And 'tinting' a sealer toward the color that is being shot aids in helping out the coverage due to the paint is more than likely full of a lot or pearls or weak pigments that do not cover well...so getting a 'head start' towards the color helps in keeping the amount of actual paint down a little bit.

almost 100% And I am well aware of the color wave lengths that some light sources can have an effect on colors. Different types of light have different wave lengths.

Depending on the pigments/toners in the red color that is being shot....YES...it can have an orange cast to it when it is under some artificial lights. BUT not every red will do this.

When a customer is choosing a color for their Vette at my shop. I shoot up a couple of test panels where I 'tweak' the color and give these panels to them. I tell them to take them to the gas station at night...and also look at them in sunlight...sunset...in front of car headlgiths and find the color they can live with.


DUB

 

Here's another example of Rally Red

 

Thanks DUB!!! My lower rear filler panel is off so maybe I can get him to do it first.

Thanks,
Dex

 

Thanks bondguy!!! That car is beautiful too. Man I'm getting excited to get mine painted.

Thanks,
Dex