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What you would want to do is to measure the distance from the pump mounting surface to the pulley mounting surface of the hub and verify that it is or is not correct.
Okay, finally figured out what my problem was. It wasn't the manifold at all, it was the alternator. It was too big, came from an 82 Camaro. Installed an alternator from an earlier model and it went right in. I think I can use my manifold mount also.
Got in the spacer today and installed it, looks & fits great. The pulleys seem to line up and I have about 7/32" gap B/T the pulleys. Looks like I'm good to go for now.
Maybe the pic isn't clear to you guys, but it looks like it aligns to me. And yes, it is important. This is all a prelude to me installing A/C.
Here's another pic...
Humor me, I've had a long day..... Put two belts on, one in each groove. Are the belts parallel to each other in the span between the two pulleys?
Okay, you're right, I now see what you guys see. The center portion b/t the grooves is wider on the WP pulley, by about .10". What I don't understand is the front of the pulleys match and the rear matches, so there must be a difference in the groove angle.
Anyway, Jim, I going to assume you're right about the WP pulley and try to get one like you pictured. Not going to get that one for $300 though!
The WP pulley most likely to be compatible with your crank pulley is the one I mentioned in posting #41. If you get that pulley and it does NOT align with the crank pulley, then buy the crank pulley I mentioned in that same posting. If you end up with both of the pulleys I suggested, you won't need the spacer.
The WP pulley most likely to be compatible with your crank pulley is the one I mentioned in posting #41. If you get that pulley and it does NOT align with the crank pulley, then buy the crank pulley I mentioned in that same posting. If you end up with both of the pulleys I suggested, you won't need the spacer.
I think you may be forgetting that the OP has a C1 "without" the crank/balancer spacer.
The lack of that .140" thick spacer behind the balancer is not going to allow alignment of the crank pulley to the other pulleys.
And since he already tried to remove the balancer (without any movement), the addition of that spacer is "slim" at this point. He may be in for another crank to pulley spacer from Speedway........but the thinnest they have is .200".
John
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I think you may be forgetting that the OP has a C1 "without" the crank/balancer spacer.
The lack of that .140" thick spacer behind the balancer is not going to allow alignment of the crank pulley to the other pulleys.
And since he already tried to remove the balancer (without any movement), the addition of that spacer is "slim" at this point. He may be in for another crank to pulley spacer from Speedway........but the thinnest they have is .200".
John
You're right. Previous owner had .10" washers behind the crank pulley. As long as it doesn't exceed the thickness of the lip so you can center it, should work okay. Speedway doesn't offer a .14 thickness, so I'm thinking I'll be back to the washers. It worked well for 30 years.
Just bought some pulleys that came off one engine so they're a set and should line up. They carry the part #'s Jim suggested. Should be here Wednesday. Fingers crossed!
The WP pulley appears to be the deep groove variety while the crank pulley looks to be the standard groove variety. That is significant.
The groove spacing on the two types are different and it's impossible to make both belts align correctly. If my eyes are not playing tricks on me, the two belts appear to be closer together as they wrap around the crank pulley than they are as they wrap around the WP pulley.
Norm, are these the pulleys advertised as having both come off the same engine?
The WP pulley appears to be the deep groove variety while the crank pulley looks to be the standard groove variety. That is significant.
The groove spacing on the two types are different and it's impossible to make both belts align correctly. If my eyes are not playing tricks on me, the two belts appear to be closer together as they wrap around the crank pulley than they are as they wrap around the WP pulley.
Norm, are these the pulleys advertised as having both come off the same engine?
Jim
That's what the seller said. Double groove water pump (#3790356CH) and 2 piece 3 groove crank pulley (#3744043BA-3751232GM)? I didn't install the 3751232GM.
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he should be good as long as he doesn't want/have power steering or a/c... otherwise he's going to have to start all over again....
I think you've got it!