Need some help please
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Need some help please
I recently purchased a amazingly pure 1963 Corvette Fiberglas Dash. I had it shipped from the East Coast to Montana. The Dash was packed in popcorn and a cardboard box. Total weight was 21 pounds.
Paid the shipping and it arrived safely, thats the good news
The bad news is in transition the shipper billed me an additional $1056.44 because he said and I quote " the box was 86 pounds overweight".
Well we figured out what he did. He strapped the dash/box to a pallet then weighed it and is trying to bill me for the weight of dash+Pallet.
So whats the point?
The point is, I need a Spec sheet to give to UPS to prove that the dash weighs what it weighs. I am guessing somewhere around 12 pounds and the popcorn+ box is another 9 pounds.
Anyone know how to find a spec sheet for an empty dash? i need it or I do not get back my $1056.44
Any help is appreciated. So far nothing on Google that I can find for specs and weight??????
Here is a pic
Paid the shipping and it arrived safely, thats the good news
The bad news is in transition the shipper billed me an additional $1056.44 because he said and I quote " the box was 86 pounds overweight".
Well we figured out what he did. He strapped the dash/box to a pallet then weighed it and is trying to bill me for the weight of dash+Pallet.
So whats the point?
The point is, I need a Spec sheet to give to UPS to prove that the dash weighs what it weighs. I am guessing somewhere around 12 pounds and the popcorn+ box is another 9 pounds.
Anyone know how to find a spec sheet for an empty dash? i need it or I do not get back my $1056.44
Any help is appreciated. So far nothing on Google that I can find for specs and weight??????
Here is a pic
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I recently purchased a amazingly pure 1963 Corvette Fiberglas Dash. I had it shipped from the East Coast to Montana. The Dash was packed in popcorn and a cardboard box. Total weight was 21 pounds.
Paid the shipping and it arrived safely, thats the good news
The bad news is in transition the shipper billed me an additional $1056.44 because he said and I quote " the box was 86 pounds overweight".
Well we figured out what he did. He strapped the dash/box to a pallet then weighed it and is trying to bill me for the weight of dash+Pallet.
So whats the point?
The point is, I need a Spec sheet to give to UPS to prove that the dash weighs what it weighs. I am guessing somewhere around 12 pounds and the popcorn+ box is another 9 pounds.
Anyone know how to find a spec sheet for an empty dash? i need it or I do not get back my $1056.44
Any help is appreciated. So far nothing on Google that I can find for specs and weight??????
Here is a pic
Paid the shipping and it arrived safely, thats the good news
The bad news is in transition the shipper billed me an additional $1056.44 because he said and I quote " the box was 86 pounds overweight".
Well we figured out what he did. He strapped the dash/box to a pallet then weighed it and is trying to bill me for the weight of dash+Pallet.
So whats the point?
The point is, I need a Spec sheet to give to UPS to prove that the dash weighs what it weighs. I am guessing somewhere around 12 pounds and the popcorn+ box is another 9 pounds.
Anyone know how to find a spec sheet for an empty dash? i need it or I do not get back my $1056.44
Any help is appreciated. So far nothing on Google that I can find for specs and weight??????
Here is a pic
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Maybe next time, (not sure if it is available in Alberta) use greyhound.
Years ago (2003), I had a similar thing happen to me. I bought a front clip from someone in the Tampa area. He got a quote from the freighter (train) which was 300.00. I drove to the train depot and picked up the freight. They charged me 1200.00. I was irate since the weight and size was quoted correctly. Reluctantly, I paid for the shipping then loaded up the front clip into my truck pretty much by myself. I never felt it was the sellers fault since he sent me the quoted paperwork with the order. Just my experience...
You could take a picture of it with a small child holding up the item. That should be proof enough to show the weight.
Years ago (2003), I had a similar thing happen to me. I bought a front clip from someone in the Tampa area. He got a quote from the freighter (train) which was 300.00. I drove to the train depot and picked up the freight. They charged me 1200.00. I was irate since the weight and size was quoted correctly. Reluctantly, I paid for the shipping then loaded up the front clip into my truck pretty much by myself. I never felt it was the sellers fault since he sent me the quoted paperwork with the order. Just my experience...
You could take a picture of it with a small child holding up the item. That should be proof enough to show the weight.
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I went to ship a pretty large box that didn't weigh much. Cost a lot. Guess there's something called dimensional weight. Basically the weight us increased according to how larger the box is. Bassically my 43x24x12 box went from 20 pounds to 89 pounds:
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/re...im_weight.html
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/re...im_weight.html
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I went to ship a pretty large box that didn't weigh much. Cost a lot. Guess there's something called dimensional weight. Basically the weight us increased according to how larger the box is. Bassically my 43x24x12 box went from 20 pounds to 89 pounds:
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/re...im_weight.html
https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/re...im_weight.html
The box was picked up. Actual dimensions and weight were 62x19x19 but wanted to ensure I was accurate, weight was 20.5 pounds.
Then someone decided to strap it to a pallet, and thats where the story begins with me losing $1056.44 additional money.
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I can't imagine the pallet weighed 86 pounds. I'm guessing what you're dealing with is "dimensional weight". UPS and FedEx both use to forms of measurement for determining the cost to ship something. One is the package's actual weight, and the other is dimensional weight, where they calculate a theoretical weight for a package, based on it's outside dimensions. Which ever is higher, is what they charge. UPS has additional charges over packages over certain total dimensions, and limit packages to a dimensional weight of 165 pounds (total of the length and girth combined). They also have a maximum length limit of 108 inches.
When you say the "shipper" put it on a pallet, who are you referring to; UPS, a UPS Store, a Mailboxes Etc store, the seller? You probably should start with whoever put it on the pallet, and find out why.
I can tell you that UPS doesn't care what the dash, or the box it was in weighs. If UPS shipped it on a pallet, that is what they are going to base their charges on.
Sorry, I was typing while you were posting that you were a where of UPS' practice of charging dimentionally.
When you say the "shipper" put it on a pallet, who are you referring to; UPS, a UPS Store, a Mailboxes Etc store, the seller? You probably should start with whoever put it on the pallet, and find out why.
I can tell you that UPS doesn't care what the dash, or the box it was in weighs. If UPS shipped it on a pallet, that is what they are going to base their charges on.
Sorry, I was typing while you were posting that you were a where of UPS' practice of charging dimentionally.
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86 pounds total minus 21 pounds for the dash makes the pallet 65 pounds. That's a heavy pallet.
Man what a mess, I sure hope things can get straightened out.
Man what a mess, I sure hope things can get straightened out.
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I can't imagine the pallet weighed 86 pounds. I'm guessing what you're dealing with is "dimensional weight". UPS and FedEx both use to forms of measurement for determining the cost to ship something. One is the package's actual weight, and the other is dimensional weight, where they calculate a theoretical weight for a package, based on it's outside dimensions. Which ever is higher, is what they charge. UPS has additional charges over packages over certain total dimensions, and limit packages to a dimensional weight of 165 pounds (total of the length and girth combined). They also have a maximum length limit of 108 inches.
When you say the "shipper" put it on a pallet, who are you referring to; UPS, a UPS Store, a Mailboxes Etc store, the seller? You probably should start with whoever put it on the pallet, and find out why.
I can tell you that UPS doesn't care what the dash, or the box it was in weighs. If UPS shipped it on a pallet, that is what they are going to base their charges on.
Sorry, I was typing while you were posting that you were a where of UPS' practice of charging dimentionally.
When you say the "shipper" put it on a pallet, who are you referring to; UPS, a UPS Store, a Mailboxes Etc store, the seller? You probably should start with whoever put it on the pallet, and find out why.
I can tell you that UPS doesn't care what the dash, or the box it was in weighs. If UPS shipped it on a pallet, that is what they are going to base their charges on.
Sorry, I was typing while you were posting that you were a where of UPS' practice of charging dimentionally.
UPS can put it on a pallet all they want, but the quote was given for dimensional data and weight.....If they said the quote was $1356.44 I would not have taken the contract
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Did that, actually sat it on a regular scale and sent them the picture. But I think I will have to take it to Puralotor or Fedex here and have them certify its weight. We do not have a UPS in this town.
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The item was sent from the seller to a company called PaKMail. They package things up for transit. They did not attach the box to anything and handed it to the UPS driver as is. He then strapped it to the Pallet. Then when it was transferred to a another truck the shipper at that next station weighed it and wrote up that it was overweight and withdrew the funds against the contract.
When you sign with UPS etc you sign an agreement that if the package is not as stated, they can retrieve the necessary difference. I was in Phoenix and the package was going to Montana. Gave them my Visa Number... and poof 6 days into the transit my bank acct was hit for the extra $1056.44
When you sign with UPS etc you sign an agreement that if the package is not as stated, they can retrieve the necessary difference. I was in Phoenix and the package was going to Montana. Gave them my Visa Number... and poof 6 days into the transit my bank acct was hit for the extra $1056.44
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sounds like it ended up with UPS Freight instead of UPS Ground. I don't think Ground would ever put anything on a pallet for any reason. Freight like to have things on a pallet, because the majority if not all of their handling is done on a dock with forklifts.
Just another reason to use FedEx!!
Just another reason to use FedEx!!
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The item was sent from the seller to a company called PaKMail. They package things up for transit. They did not attach the box to anything and handed it to the UPS driver as is. He then strapped it to the Pallet. Then when it was transferred to a another truck the shipper at that next station weighed it and wrote up that it was overweight and withdrew the funds against the contract.
When you sign with UPS etc you sign an agreement that if the package is not as stated, they can retrieve the necessary difference. I was in Phoenix and the package was going to Montana. Gave them my Visa Number... and poof 6 days into the transit my bank acct was hit for the extra $1056.44
When you sign with UPS etc you sign an agreement that if the package is not as stated, they can retrieve the necessary difference. I was in Phoenix and the package was going to Montana. Gave them my Visa Number... and poof 6 days into the transit my bank acct was hit for the extra $1056.44
Contest it and refuse to pay it.
I dont know what the track record with Visa is with things of this nature but I have never been let down by Amex.
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So, the 64 they must have taken from the invoice. The 25 must be the box sitting on the pallet.....but 34.5? tried to see if any pallets are 34.5 but could not really find any. Now, if it was a 34.5 pallet...there is no way it weighed 80+ pounds. So I have talked to Visa and will go that route because to be honest I think UPS is screwing Freightcenter around and FreightCenter is screwing me around. So VISA attack is next.