20round

well my body man has been getting kinda pissy about what should be painted and not on my 65 roadster.. here is the latest one, so i believe the inside floor, and underside does not get paint, just bare glass? he swears up and down that a low miles 63 coupe he did in the late 70s had painted floors and underside, and he was the first too touch the car for paint work? these debates have been going on with several other things on the car also. i think its just a distraction, to sit back and drink coffee on his part! so fill me in here guys who is right? thanks troy

morly1963

Bring him some restoration books.

oemtech

Who is paying the bill? Next get a new body man!

MAD IN NC

Far as I know - you are right. No paint Ask Frankie

Nowhere Man

The pilot line cars got the complete underside blacked out as seen in the Adams book. However ALL PRODUCTION cars got bare glass on the floor pans. the only black out is the wheel wells and the sides of the jack stowage area that is seen through the wheel wells

65hihp

Sounds like your body/paint man does not want your job. Because that's where your conversation with him is headed, if I were you.
I would tell him like Lt. Bullitt above said,
"do my job the way I tell you to do it, or say adios to this job."
Just as simple as that.

A-Snake

Maybe your paint guy is thinking about the body color overspray that may have been on the inside floors from painting the air intake grills from the cowl. They were placed on the cars floor to be painted.

ptjsk

Seems like there is a lot of tension between the two of you, and he hasn't even painted the car yet.

I can almost guarantee that there will be problems looming ahead, probably even more so after color is applied.

If it were me, I would be showing up at the opening hour of the next business day. And I would be pulling an empty trailer, which would have my car in it on when I left.

Bottom line is that you're the customer spending your money to get the car completed the way you want it to be.

A good business man would be able to get his point across, yet still follow the instructions of the paying customer.

Pat

ricks327

To add to the above valid points, what else is he going to do that is not correct? One example would be to paint the wiper grille area body color rather than black.

GTOguy

I agree 100%. No telling how much money (and grief) will be saved by taking this course of action.

20round

I KNOW! RIGHT! well here is one problem i have. he is a old and dear family friend.. i am prodding him to understand the logic behind my thoughts..and time frame here..thank you

Frankie the Fink

There is a ton of controversy about 63 "blackout" but not much about body color. My 63 May car has extensive blackout at the rear but NO body color or blackout on the floor pans. Bare blonde fiberglass. I think your paint guy is full of it.

Its a bad scene when you get sideways with somebody working on your car. You have to wonder if he'll stand by any warranty issues should they arise if you force him to do something he thinks is incorrect.

20round

thank you nowhere man! another Q for you since i have your attention for a min. the driver inner fender washer bag bracket, and wire loom clips in the front on both inners along with the catch can bracket, do they get painted in place or where they added after paint? thanks

Nowhere Man

Bracket before paint I think. The wire looms defiantly after paint

20round

hahaha thank you frankie! your the 63 man. i think someone had been the 63 he was talking about before him. and thought it would be cool to paint it all black too hide something or what ever.. all i know is, my 65 should be bare. and that was confirmed here!

20round

i am digging through my books now, if find anything different please let me know..thanks troy

DansYellow66

If you aren't ready to leave your paint and body guy you could compromise and have him cover the underside and floor with flat clear. It does help cleanup. Just thinking outside the box.

JohnZ

Simple general rule - any clips/brackets that are RIVETED to fiberglass were installed in the Body Shop, prior to body paint; if they're attached with screws or bolt/nut mechanical fasteners, they were installed AFTER body paint.

Sky65

Just went through a miserable ordeal with a body shop. 1 1/2 years of hassle. Get out before you have too much money invested with him and can't get out.

Tom

20round

I KNOW.... i got too get this figured out....thanks all