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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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Pulled the head today. If you look just under the cast line you can see the crack. One just like it on the other side of the head...
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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What heads are those (casting number & year Vette)?

Do you have a reason why they both cracked (freezing or overheating)?

If freezing, I would check block for cracks as well.............
If overheating, check block flatness.

But I have never seen heads crack like that!

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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:42 PM
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Clarify PLS. This is one head with cracks or two head with cracks in the same place.

I have never seen this in 50 years with Chevy heads. Guessing it froze.

Sorry about your misfortune.
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 10:15 PM
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I have a friend that has done nothing but build Chevy engines since 45 years. First thing he does on a SB head is filp it upside down and throw some filings on the middle two cyls, then the magnet. 30 seconds he says qualifies or disqualifies 99% of the heads. But they don't break here. This looks like a freeze or poor torque procedure.
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Old Jun 26, 2017 | 07:12 AM
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He said there's a crack just like that on the other side of THE HEAD.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Plasticman
What heads are those (casting number & year Vette)?

Do you have a reason why they both cracked (freezing or overheating)?

If freezing, I would check block for cracks as well.............
If overheating, check block flatness.

But I have never seen heads crack like that!

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Hello plasticman,
They are 461's dated, 1 28 65. Only the driver side head cracked. It cracked in two places. To the right and left side of the center exhaust ports.

I've always suspected a crack in this head. Never water dripping from it,but I could always see dried water run marks in these areas.

I've had the Vette since 1988, purchased it when I lived in New Hampshire. I started a full frame off resto in 2004. In 2006 me moved to Arizona. Vette moved in boxes. LoL!!! About 3 years ago I started working on it again. Finally a couple of months ago I was at the point if started it up. Had several issued that I worked thru but then the head had a very small water leak that just got worse.

I'm figuring that maybe some years ago, before I owned the Vette maybe it got frozen, and when I pulled the heads and re installed them during the resto it opened the crack up.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by R66
Clarify PLS. This is one head with cracks or two head with cracks in the same place.

I have never seen this in 50 years with Chevy heads. Guessing it froze.

Sorry about your misfortune.
Hello R66,
Only Driver side cracked. But it cracked in two places. To the right and left side of the center exhaust ports..

Yes, my guess is that it froze as well. I have detailed the history on my Vette in one of the other questions in this original post if you would like to know the details.

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Originally Posted by pop23235
I have a friend that has done nothing but build Chevy engines since 45 years. First thing he does on a SB head is filp it upside down and throw some filings on the middle two cyls, then the magnet. 30 seconds he says qualifies or disqualifies 99% of the heads. But they don't break here. This looks like a freeze or poor torque procedure.
Yes I believe it was a freezing issue long before my time with the Vette. I can say that when I installed the heads, I used the proper bolt sequencing in 35, 45 and 65lbs intervals.

If you would like to read full detail on the heads, I have explained it in one of the other forum member questions in this post.

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Originally Posted by ILBMF
He said there's a crack just like that on the other side of THE HEAD.

Correct, Two cracks on driver side head. One to the right and one to the left of the two center exhaust ports.

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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:18 PM
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Yesterday I received my replacement heads. They are 461X heads dated B 13 3. Now Getting ready to install them and get motor back together, and try again to have a successfully running engine.

My fingers are crossed.

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The LevelAir suspension was an option in both 58 and 59, thus, those engines had holes for mounting the compressor.









Also, back then, there were some BIG trucks which had heads with holes on the ends for mounting the air compressor for the air brakes.
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 10:30 AM
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Were the heads cracked as well?
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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That's definitely a freeze crack. It is possible to do a permanent repair to that. It's called stitching. You would buy the plug kit. Then install overlapping cast iron plugs. You could do it in the car with an angle drill but it would be a PIA
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???????? This thread is over a year and a half old. I am sure the OP has by now taken care of the issue..............
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOguy
???????? This thread is over a year and a half old. I am sure the OP has by now taken care of the issue..............

There are two threads here now. One about cracked heads and one about holes in the head.

Are you confused?

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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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Please accept my most sincere apologies. I didn't check the expiration date before responding. I have mine set up to see the last post first.
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert61
Please accept my most sincere apologies. I didn't check the expiration date before responding. I have mine set up to see the last post first.
All in good fun, and no worries, Robert. DZAuto revived the thread....with a completely unrelated and disconnected reply!
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I think DZ plugged a hole in the wrong thread!
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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I was all confused!! Lol
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only other thing I have seen is guys using a pry bar in the exhaust port to loosen the head and forgot a head bolt .....cracked it....
Strange....
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