[C2] Engine Upgrade
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Engine Upgrade
Well, the time has come for me to upgrade the engine in my '66. I'm getting tired of using 100 octane race fuel in it at $9.50/gal to keep it from pinging. I'll be reducing compression from 12 to 10, and increasing lift, flow, and displacement.
Total Engine Cost Including Upgrades
Used the software I developed and validated from LS-7 and LS-9 engine performance and others, that I give away for free on my website www.EngineBuilderProfessional.com
Total Engine Cost Including Upgrades
Used the software I developed and validated from LS-7 and LS-9 engine performance and others, that I give away for free on my website www.EngineBuilderProfessional.com
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Why not re-curve your distributor and keep what you got
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I'm guessing whatever the OP has in the car right now is nothing like the monster he's building.
OP, that sounds pretty dang incredible. I hope you enjoy it!
OP, that sounds pretty dang incredible. I hope you enjoy it!
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Big Block?
Coincidence that I've been reading up on big inch small blocks since I picked up a standard bore 400" block.
Lingenfelter (RIP) limited his builds to 420" using 5.85" rods and 3.85" stroke. More stroke tightens the ring pack and shorter rods create accelerated cylinders wear. Also compromises the pan rail sealing for clearancing.
For more displacement a 496" BB doesn't have any of those issues and can be built for much less. They have much better flowing heads to. They do weight something like 80 lbs more though.
I guess what I'm saying here is motors with tight ring packs and short rods are not street motors with reasonable street life - more of a race only/show only toy.
I see you have good experience with big inch small blocks Brandnt so I'm sure you know what you want but I just wanted to put this out there for you to consider. Not wanting to flame anyone.
Good luck and hope this can help.
Lingenfelter (RIP) limited his builds to 420" using 5.85" rods and 3.85" stroke. More stroke tightens the ring pack and shorter rods create accelerated cylinders wear. Also compromises the pan rail sealing for clearancing.
For more displacement a 496" BB doesn't have any of those issues and can be built for much less. They have much better flowing heads to. They do weight something like 80 lbs more though.
I guess what I'm saying here is motors with tight ring packs and short rods are not street motors with reasonable street life - more of a race only/show only toy.
I see you have good experience with big inch small blocks Brandnt so I'm sure you know what you want but I just wanted to put this out there for you to consider. Not wanting to flame anyone.
Good luck and hope this can help.
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Coincidence that I've been reading up on big inch small blocks since I picked up a standard bore 400" block.
Lingenfelter (RIP) limited his builds to 420" using 5.85" rods and 3.85" stroke. More stroke tightens the ring pack and shorter rods create accelerated cylinders wear. Also compromises the pan rail sealing for clearancing.
For more displacement a 496" BB doesn't have any of those issues and can be built for much less. They have much better flowing heads to. They do weight something like 80 lbs more though.
I guess what I'm saying here is motors with tight ring packs and short rods are not street motors with reasonable street life - more of a race only/show only toy.
I see you have good experience with big inch small blocks Brandnt so I'm sure you know what you want but I just wanted to put this out there for you to consider. Not wanting to flame anyone.
Good luck and hope this can help.
Lingenfelter (RIP) limited his builds to 420" using 5.85" rods and 3.85" stroke. More stroke tightens the ring pack and shorter rods create accelerated cylinders wear. Also compromises the pan rail sealing for clearancing.
For more displacement a 496" BB doesn't have any of those issues and can be built for much less. They have much better flowing heads to. They do weight something like 80 lbs more though.
I guess what I'm saying here is motors with tight ring packs and short rods are not street motors with reasonable street life - more of a race only/show only toy.
I see you have good experience with big inch small blocks Brandnt so I'm sure you know what you want but I just wanted to put this out there for you to consider. Not wanting to flame anyone.
Good luck and hope this can help.
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Keith,
If you would take a minute and read his bio you would find this out:
"436 CID SBC Engine 11.57:1 Compression
Heidt's 9" Ford Ring & Pinion, 3" Half Shafts, Denny's "Nitrous Ready" Driveshaft, 1350 U-Joints throughout
5-Speed Richmond Road Race Transmission"
If you would take a minute and read his bio you would find this out:
"436 CID SBC Engine 11.57:1 Compression
Heidt's 9" Ford Ring & Pinion, 3" Half Shafts, Denny's "Nitrous Ready" Driveshaft, 1350 U-Joints throughout
5-Speed Richmond Road Race Transmission"
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Keith,
If you would take a minute and read his bio you would find this out:
"436 CID SBC Engine 11.57:1 Compression
Heidt's 9" Ford Ring & Pinion, 3" Half Shafts, Denny's "Nitrous Ready" Driveshaft, 1350 U-Joints throughout
5-Speed Richmond Road Race Transmission"
If you would take a minute and read his bio you would find this out:
"436 CID SBC Engine 11.57:1 Compression
Heidt's 9" Ford Ring & Pinion, 3" Half Shafts, Denny's "Nitrous Ready" Driveshaft, 1350 U-Joints throughout
5-Speed Richmond Road Race Transmission"
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While you can build a large cubic inch in a standard deck height small block you really should seriously consider using a tall deck block if you have your heart set on a 454 ci small block. This helps rod to stroke ratios & ring pack heights. But it requires some specialized parts to properly put the whole package together.
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While you can build a large cubic inch in a standard deck height small block you really should seriously consider using a tall deck block if you have your heart set on a 454 ci small block. This helps rod to stroke ratios & ring pack heights. But it requires some specialized parts to properly put the whole package together.
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That's a stout one with a serious valvetrain. Good move on the 50MM cam bearings. When would you think you'd want to move to a 3/8" pushrod? having any port work done to the intake?
I have to agree on the tall deck idea....or the 496....or a 555". Wouldn't be much difference in cost for the added power, simplicity or reliability.
But that one is going to be a heck of a lot of fun!
JIM
I have to agree on the tall deck idea....or the 496....or a 555". Wouldn't be much difference in cost for the added power, simplicity or reliability.
But that one is going to be a heck of a lot of fun!
JIM
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That's a stout one with a serious valvetrain. Good move on the 50MM cam bearings. When would you think you'd want to move to a 3/8" pushrod? having any port work done to the intake?
I have to agree on the tall deck idea....or the 496....or a 555". Wouldn't be much difference in cost for the added power, simplicity or reliability.
But that one is going to be a heck of a lot of fun!
JIM
I have to agree on the tall deck idea....or the 496....or a 555". Wouldn't be much difference in cost for the added power, simplicity or reliability.
But that one is going to be a heck of a lot of fun!
JIM