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Does anyone know how bad the judges in NCRS/Bloomington will ding you for a replacement coil? Getting my '55 judged soon, and the coil is an impossible find, so it seems. Thanks
I have a resto shop doing the work, and they are very hard to get on the phone/email. They didn't inform me that the coil was incorrect until last Monday..It was, oh, by the way...I'm sure they have a judging manual, but again, they are difficult to reach at times. I appreciate your time/response.
so prob half
bracket would get full points - (if correct)
The coil would get half points - (if it looks correct)
so prob 4
have to follow the CDCIF rule, Configuration, Date, Completeness, Installation, and Finish
so prob half
bracket would get full points - (if correct)
The coil would get half points - (if it looks correct)
so prob 4
have to follow the CDCIF rule, Configuration, Date, Completeness, Installation, and Finish
Thank you for the information, so quickly! You wouldn't know where there is a 1115086 coil, would you? I'd bend over, and pay....
Wow, even the guy in the NCRS Driveline only lists 087-091 and the 200 series. Tough part.
Preaching to the choir!! If I would've known years ago, when the restoration was started, I'd probably have the dang thing, but no....They wait until less than 1 month to the NCRS meet to tell me, great!
HA!! I've already called them. No stock, and don't see any coming down the pike. I'd pay double that if it was an original in good shape. Considering what I've already spent (insert stupid), a mere drop in the bucket
Yes the coil and bracket are worth 8 points. It is probable judges will give greater weight to the coil splitting the 8 points. 6 for the coil and 2 for the bracket. A deduction if detectable would then be be 20% configuration 20% date assuming the coil you use appears something like an original. Other wise there may be an another 20% for finish. So don't use a black coil in this case. If it is clearly an aftermarket coil with an non OEM brand name visible the deduction would be 100% in both columns.
So lets go with the first scenario 40% deduction. 40% of 6 is 2.4 deduction. You can't take a half point or round forward at .5 so a 2 point deduction. In the 2nd scenario, 60% of 6 is 3.6. So it could be a 3 or 4 point deduction depending on the degree of variation from an original piece.
All dependent on the assessment of the judges of the part they see that day. The line items would still have 10% or more points remaining so condition points would not be impacted unless there is a detectable condition issue.
Last edited by Rumblegutz; May 9, 2018 at 01:54 PM.
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Yes the coil and bracket are worth 8 points. It is probable judges will give greater weight to the coil splitting the 8 points. 6 for the coil and 2 fro the bracket. A deduction if detectable would then be be 20% configuration 20% date assuming the coil you use appears something like an original. Other wise there may be an another 20% for finish. So don't use a black coil in this case. If it is clearly an aftermarket coil with an non OEM brand name visible the deduction would be 100% in both columns.
So lets go with the first scenario 40% deduction. 40% of 6 is 2.4 deduction. You can't take a half point or round forward at .5 so a 2 point deduction. In the 2nd scenario, 60% of 6 is 3.6. So it could be a 3 or 4 point deduction depending on the degree of variation from an original piece.
All dependent on the assessment of the judges of the part they see that day. The line would items would still have 10% or more points remaining so condition points would not be impacted unless there is a detectable condition issue.
Thanks so much for the info. If you hear of a 1115086 coil, let me know, so I can sell my house.
You can enter your car in NCRS flight judging (and probably BG) WITHOUT the correctly numbered coil. If you lost say 4-5 points for it, out of 4510 total possible, it would have nearly imperceptible effect on your overall score. So, don't sweat it. Contrary to some beliefs here, cars do not need to be "perfect" to enter flight judging.
Years ago I bought many of Bobs 086 coils just for stock because I'm the person making the 55 shielding/// 100% correct for over 30 years . Back then many people argued about the price of each (086 coil or shielding) because the coil at the time was not judged it took some years to talk people in to buy one even the shielding to many 55 owners because it was $$$$ and they thought I would be making them for ever . Well I stopped making some years ago and now some of those same people are NOW wanting a set NO I gave up making them ( anyone thinking a part will be for sale 30 years from now is crazy, buy the part you need now!
Last edited by 1955 copper; May 9, 2018 at 03:08 PM.
Sure sounds like a lot of agony over 4-5 points. Focus on the OPERATIONS section - there are 750 points there that are lost in big 25-point chunks for things like w/washers that don't squirt, lighters that don't "pop" correctly, turn signals that don't work, and that will eat you alive a LOT faster than a few little 2-3-4 point deductions for parts. After judging C1's and midyears for over 20 years, I've seen more points lost from OPERATIONS than from any other category - most Operations deductions are Pass/Fail for 25 points each, and those HURT!
Sure sounds like a lot of agony over 4-5 points. Focus on the OPERATIONS section - there are 750 points there that are lost in big 25-point chunks for things like w/washers that don't squirt, lighters that don't "pop" correctly, turn signals that don't work, and that will eat you alive a LOT faster than a few little 2-3-4 point deductions for parts. After judging C1's and midyears for over 20 years, I've seen more points lost from OPERATIONS than from any other category - most Operations deductions are Pass/Fail for 25 points each, and those HURT!
Point well taken, thank you. I am just trying to get the car as correct as it possibly can get (whatever that means), as '55's hard truism's are hardly that at all. I'm sure Roy knows as much, or more than anyone I've ever met about '55's. He taught me a lesson at Bloomington many years ago.
HA!! I've already called them. No stock, and don't see any coming down the pike. I'd pay double that if it was an original in good shape. Considering what I've already spent (insert stupid), a mere drop in the bucket
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