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Old 06-21-2018, 06:08 PM
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I think I知 in trouble, as I have a VBP front suspension setup like the one pictured. Members are having trouble getting anything out of VBP and it appears I知 needing poly bushings and blocks as mine are disintegrating rapidly. Does anyone know where I can replacements?






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65-68 was the same and 69-82 was the same . OEM is proven to last and perform very well for a street driven car. what makes you think the other stuff will last any longer. and what if they go out of business like the other company did. Franks thread on Polly should be all you need to know why that stuff does not belong on a Corvette
He wants to know where he can get new bushings. If you don't have a helpful reply then don't reply at all.
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I would swap it back for original
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This was on the car when I bought it. I don稚 have the original parts.
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I would check with Vansteel as they make a similar product. They use Energy Suspension polyurethane products

i used Energy Suspension bushings in my VB&P rear strut rods. On the blocks under the spring you may have to make your own

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This was on the car when I bought it. I don稚 have the original parts.
65-68 was the same and 69-82 was the same . OEM is proven to last and perform very well for a street driven car. what makes you think the other stuff will last any longer. and what if they go out of business like the other company did. Franks thread on Polly should be all you need to know why that stuff does not belong on a Corvette
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The outer spring bolt bushings are available from the normal vendors like ZIP. You can use poly or rubber. The inner blocks I think you will have to make. Also may I suggest you use drilled head bolts for the blocks and safety wire them. I had some bolts l loosen and I lost a bushing. I could get replacements back then so I did. I also safety wired the bolts. No more problem.

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
65-68 was the same and 69-82 was the same . OEM is proven to last and perform very well for a street driven car. what makes you think the other stuff will last any longer. and what if they go out of business like the other company did. Franks thread on Polly should be all you need to know why that stuff does not belong on a Corvette
He wants to know where he can get new bushings. If you don't have a helpful reply then don't reply at all.

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He wants to know where he can get new bushings. If you don't have a helpful reply then don't reply at all.
when he finds them he should buy a few sets. seems like they are designed to fail in short order
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This has been a hot topic lately and there are several threads about it. Here's what I said about the spring pads in an earlier thread a few weeks ago.

I needed the same cushions and VBP delayed for so long I made my own. I got a 6"x6" sheet of polyurethane 3/8" thick in hardness 60A from my favorite hardware supplier mcmaster.com (link). I cut it into four pieces of the correct size and secured as mentioned above. That is enough for one dual mount spring.

P.S. One of the highly respected engineers here said that attempting to secure those pads with a simple bolt and nut was hopeless as the urethane compresses too much to allow the bolt to properly stretch and lock in place. I solved that problem by adding nyloc nuts. That lets me secure the bolts without deforming the polyurethane too much. I also used thread locker on the threaded plate.
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Originally Posted by kellsdad
This has been a hot topic lately and there are several threads about it. Here's what I said about the spring pads in an earlier thread a few weeks ago.

I needed the same cushions and VBP delayed for so long I made my own. I got a 6"x6" sheet of polyurethane 3/8" thick in hardness 60A from my favorite hardware supplier mcmaster.com (link). I cut it into four pieces of the correct size and secured as mentioned above. That is enough for one dual mount spring.

P.S. One of the highly respected engineers here said that attempting to secure those pads with a simple bolt and nut was hopeless as the urethane compresses too much to allow the bolt to properly stretch and lock in place. I solved that problem by adding nyloc nuts. That lets me secure the bolts without deforming the polyurethane too much. I also used thread locker on the threaded plate.
Excellent idea, I値l do that. Thanks very much. That takes care of the pads, now I知 hoping Vansteel can get me the bushings.
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Originally Posted by Sky65
The outer spring bolt bushings are available from the normal vendors like ZIP. You can use poly or rubber. The inner blocks I think you will have to make. Also may I suggest you use drilled he'd bolts for the blocks and safety wire them. I had some bolts l loosen and I lost a bushing. I could get replacements back then so I did. I also safety wired the bolts. No more problem.

Tom
Good idea! You don稚 happen to know which ones, do you? This time around, I壇 rather have the rubber ones,
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These are what I put in the rear dual mount spring on my 65. I don't see why they wouldn't work on the grime as well. I haven't got around to changing my fronts yet.

https://www.zip-corvette.com/63-82-r...ns-rubber.html

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Originally Posted by Sky65
These are what I put in the rear dual mount spring on my 65. I don't see why they wouldn't work on the grime as well. I haven't got around to changing my fronts yet.

https://www.zip-corvette.com/63-82-r...ns-rubber.html

Tom
thank you, I知 going to try them
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
I think I知 in trouble, as I have a VBP front suspension setup like the one pictured. Members are having trouble getting anything out of VBP and it appears I知 needing poly bushings and blocks as mine are disintegrating rapidly. Does anyone know where I can replacements?






Try www.paragoncorvette.com , they sell 100%" Real Rubber Bushings." In this case, original is better then poly crap that does not flex very well, but tends to crack and crumble apart.


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Originally Posted by kellsdad
This has been a hot topic lately and there are several threads about it. Here's what I said about the spring pads in an earlier thread a few weeks ago.

I needed the same cushions and VBP delayed for so long I made my own. I got a 6"x6" sheet of polyurethane 3/8" thick in hardness 60A from my favorite hardware supplier mcmaster.com (link). I cut it into four pieces of the correct size and secured as mentioned above. That is enough for one dual mount spring.

P.S. One of the highly respected engineers here said that attempting to secure those pads with a simple bolt and nut was hopeless as the urethane compresses too much to allow the bolt to properly stretch and lock in place. I solved that problem by adding nyloc nuts. That lets me secure the bolts without deforming the polyurethane too much. I also used thread locker on the threaded plate.
i ordered the block material from McMaster today except I picked rubber (1290N18) instead ( don稚 like poly) same hardness 60A, so I知 hoping it will work. Thanks again for the info.
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver


i ordered the block material from McMaster today except I picked rubber (1290N18) instead ( don稚 like poly) same hardness 60A, so I知 hoping it will work. Thanks again for the info.
On my VB&P suspension the polyurethane spring pads have grease fittings. Not sure what is moving here but an observation.
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The grease fittings are to lube the pivot bolts that go through the spring supports

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