Going to look at a C2 63
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2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
If you're not knowledgeable on C2s, then I would try and find someone who is and bring them with you.
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That of course is beyond the usual items such as:
Bird cage rust
Engine/VIN match
Trim tag date matches Serial build date.
Flared wheel wells - expensive to fix right
A few high dollar parts:
Seats
Glovebox door
Shifter
Steering Wheel
Correct Wheel Rims
Correct hardtop if so equipped
Fiberglass headlight buckets
Correct seat belts if that matters to you
I've seen lots of '63s stripped of these parts and then sold off with cheap replacements.
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Hopefully, you've spent the last month or so cramming every night and are not just going to look at the car on a whim. The '63 Sting Ray is one of the most difficult Sting Ray's to evaluate, especially if one is not a scholar on the subject. Seriously. If it is a 30-50k driver quality non #'s car, not as much of an issue.
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If you added some location info to your profile (assuming the car is local to you) you might get help from someone nearby...
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You prob can't get one in time but this little book will help you with the major component numbers:
https://www.ncrs.org/shop/index.php?...roducts_id=627
https://www.ncrs.org/shop/index.php?...roducts_id=627
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I did a almost a year researching what to look for. Had an experienced C2 guy do the standard pre-inspection. And did an extensive inspection underneath while an expert restorer was on the phone with me. Looked like what you’d expect from an unrestored 50 YO car at the price point. What we all missed until we pulled the body for a body restoration was the TOP of the frame back towards the kick up for about a foot was GONE. Just a U channel basically invisible from the bottom (BB car BTW). I would have never trusted anything else on that frame if we had repaired it. You’ll read about the usual rust around the kick up, if I purchase another C2 I’ll have one of those camera wand inspection tools that are so cheap now. Learn the color of ‘63 glass and about the radiused holes in the metal nose reinforcement to determine if it’s been damaged up front.
Anyway, in all my research I never had heard about salt accumulation on top of the frame rail eating down from the top. Enjoy! Even with all my surprises I still had a blast making her safe and mine.
Anyway, in all my research I never had heard about salt accumulation on top of the frame rail eating down from the top. Enjoy! Even with all my surprises I still had a blast making her safe and mine.
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The doors (They have a pad the handles mounts too)
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Here is a list I copied n pasted from a list on this forum for my own knowledge and the link to the posting.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ets-do-it.html
Engine:
Master Brake Cylinder...Thumbscrew and Hex nut
Carburetors
Fan Blades (round and flat rivets)
Air Cleaner Base for the 340 HP, Air Cleaner Base (250 & 300 Hp),
Air Cleaner Base With Air Conditioning
Air cleaner (oil fill hose connect)
Rattle Blocks (used on the hood to cut vibrations)
Brake Booster
Ignition cover (two types here used)
Blower motor cover
Blower motor wheel
Blower motor capacitor
heater ducting
Fuel Line Set 327/340hp (Chrome)
Horns (pitch is different)
Draft tube at back of intake
Clutch fork design
Starter Brace
Oil Filler Tube 340hp (chrome), others Black, Oil Filler Tube Fi (chrome)
Oil Filler Cap (unplated)(250-300hp)(
Intake Manifold Bolts (AP Hdmk)(12) (zinc)
Idler Pulley 327/340-360 Hp (zinc Pulley)
Power Brake Hose And Clips (with Swan Logo)
Hose A/CL To Oil Tube
Breather/PCV Tube
Alum V/C Bolts 327 (phillips) for Finned Valve Covers
Alum V/C Bolts 327 (m Headmark) for metal Valve Covers
Exhaust Manifold Bolt Set
Exhaust Manifold French Locks (steel)
Fuel Pump
Fuel Hose & Clamps
Clean Air Tube With Hose
Alternator Pulley & Disk (250-300hp A/C)
Alt Bracket Bolts & Washers (63 LH-A/C)
Alternator Brace (RH)(with V Stamping)
Alt Brace LH A/C
Overflow/Supply Tank Straps with Metal Brackets, Backing Plates & Rivets
Fiberglass Supply Tank Support
Heater Hose Straps- Aluminum
Hose Clamp On Fender Skirt
Alternator Fan
Alternator Bracket- LH (327 A/C)
Interior
Dash Board, Stainless Steel Cone Instruments
Center Console, Center, all silver,
Console U-nuts
Console Horseshoe Molding
Console Retainer Bracket With Rivets & Nut Plate
Shifter Boot
Shift Boot Retainer
Shifter Boot Nut Plate+rivets
Shifter Indicator Plate- Std and Auto
P/W Switch Screws, Nuts & Spacers (Power windows was option)
Black Bakelite Shift Ball
Steering Column Support
Seat backs and seat legs (adjustable)
Seat Height Adjuster Mounting Screws & Washers
Seat Track Pinch Welt
Seat Adjuster Handle
Return Springs For Seat Adjusting Handle
Seat Track Rivets (63) (2 Seats /set Of 16)
Long Front Seat Nut Plate
Seat Belt Material
Seat Belt Buckles
Seat Belt Reinforcement Corners
"Tool Kit" indentations under the seats
Rear view Mirror
Plastic Glove Box
Plastic walnut steering wheel (option)
Steering Wheel- Colored Plastic (Black,Red,Tan,Blue)
Steering Mast (tube)
Steering Jacket Wedge And Screw
Steering Column Sleeve
Steering Column Mounting Bracket Under Dash
Directional Cable/ Horn Wire Clip On Mast
Turn Signal Metal Ring (with Pawls & Spring)
Directional Plate Screw
Directional Roller
Directional Roller "w-shape" Spring
Directional Cable
Directional Cable Mounting Screw
Directional Handle & ****
Directional Canceling Cam
Directional Switch
Bolts (dir. Switch Mounting) (1 Pr)
Upper Steering Bearing/horn Contact
AM Wonderbar Radio
Radio Lens- "wonderbar" (with Numbers)
Radio **** (push On)(AM Radio Only)
Dash Name Plates (with A/C too)
Radio Side Panel Left side 63 only
Clock unit using Stainless Steel Cone
Black door *****
the Ignition Keys were different, did not say Briggs Statton
Rear window trim
13 piece carpet
Insulation & Plugs under dashboard (with Heater)(L & R) Before Jan, changed after Jan.
Luggage Metal Stop
Pinchwelt- look for correct Width & Grain
Roadster- Pinchwelt Cap With Bolt & Nut
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (2 Hole)(LH)(til May 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (2 Hole)(RH)(til May 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (1 Hole)(LH)(june 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (1 Hole)(RH)(june 63)
Pinch Welt Cap Screw & Barrel Nut (roadster)
Coupe Rear Quarter Trim Panel Supports & Rivets
Upper Rear Window Vinyl Trim Strips
Exterior
Raised Door pads under door handles
Cookie Sheets
Rocker Panels
Felt whiskers in the doors in the window area
Long based side mirror, to include bracket, screws, gasket, and set screw
Polished Windshield Wipers
Hood (indents were made shallower in 64)
Rear window Stainless Steel Trim
Fiber Glass Headlight Buckets
Headlight assembly
Screw Set-headlight Bezel (4 Short,4 Long 63E
04-17D Screw Set-headlight Bezel (8 Pc) 63L
Lamp Asm LH Outer (not T-3)
04-21B Lamp Asm RH Outer (not T-3)
04-21C Lamp Asm LH Inner (not T-3)
Spare Tire Tub/Carrier
Spare Tire Carrier Support Brace
Tire Lock Bolt Bracket
Tire Lock Bolt
Hardware fasteners (Bolts) used on the Spare Tire Tub
Lock for the Spare Tire Rubber cover for the spare tire lock
Gas Cap Cover, Fuel Filler Roller Door roller type June 63 or the after May 63, the slide
Rear Fuel Tank Hose & 2 Clamps
Fuel Tank Suppor
Split Window
Parking Light Assembly (wires and rubber boots)
Parking light bulb (only fit the 63)
Grill Bracket U-nuts(for Sheet Metal Screws)
Grill U-nut (for Sheet Metal Screw)(10 Pc)
Suspension
Non Webbed spindles
Rear Spring Assemblies (turned up corners)
Emergency Brake Assembly
Steel Wheels
Wheel Covers (first 200 frosted, remainder chromed)
Rear exhaust bezels (two types used in 63)
Exhaust hangers and hardware
Rivets on the upper A Arms
Misc Hardware
Rear Deck Lock Gaskets- Rubber (Conv)
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ets-do-it.html
Engine:
Master Brake Cylinder...Thumbscrew and Hex nut
Carburetors
Fan Blades (round and flat rivets)
Air Cleaner Base for the 340 HP, Air Cleaner Base (250 & 300 Hp),
Air Cleaner Base With Air Conditioning
Air cleaner (oil fill hose connect)
Rattle Blocks (used on the hood to cut vibrations)
Brake Booster
Ignition cover (two types here used)
Blower motor cover
Blower motor wheel
Blower motor capacitor
heater ducting
Fuel Line Set 327/340hp (Chrome)
Horns (pitch is different)
Draft tube at back of intake
Clutch fork design
Starter Brace
Oil Filler Tube 340hp (chrome), others Black, Oil Filler Tube Fi (chrome)
Oil Filler Cap (unplated)(250-300hp)(
Intake Manifold Bolts (AP Hdmk)(12) (zinc)
Idler Pulley 327/340-360 Hp (zinc Pulley)
Power Brake Hose And Clips (with Swan Logo)
Hose A/CL To Oil Tube
Breather/PCV Tube
Alum V/C Bolts 327 (phillips) for Finned Valve Covers
Alum V/C Bolts 327 (m Headmark) for metal Valve Covers
Exhaust Manifold Bolt Set
Exhaust Manifold French Locks (steel)
Fuel Pump
Fuel Hose & Clamps
Clean Air Tube With Hose
Alternator Pulley & Disk (250-300hp A/C)
Alt Bracket Bolts & Washers (63 LH-A/C)
Alternator Brace (RH)(with V Stamping)
Alt Brace LH A/C
Overflow/Supply Tank Straps with Metal Brackets, Backing Plates & Rivets
Fiberglass Supply Tank Support
Heater Hose Straps- Aluminum
Hose Clamp On Fender Skirt
Alternator Fan
Alternator Bracket- LH (327 A/C)
Interior
Dash Board, Stainless Steel Cone Instruments
Center Console, Center, all silver,
Console U-nuts
Console Horseshoe Molding
Console Retainer Bracket With Rivets & Nut Plate
Shifter Boot
Shift Boot Retainer
Shifter Boot Nut Plate+rivets
Shifter Indicator Plate- Std and Auto
P/W Switch Screws, Nuts & Spacers (Power windows was option)
Black Bakelite Shift Ball
Steering Column Support
Seat backs and seat legs (adjustable)
Seat Height Adjuster Mounting Screws & Washers
Seat Track Pinch Welt
Seat Adjuster Handle
Return Springs For Seat Adjusting Handle
Seat Track Rivets (63) (2 Seats /set Of 16)
Long Front Seat Nut Plate
Seat Belt Material
Seat Belt Buckles
Seat Belt Reinforcement Corners
"Tool Kit" indentations under the seats
Rear view Mirror
Plastic Glove Box
Plastic walnut steering wheel (option)
Steering Wheel- Colored Plastic (Black,Red,Tan,Blue)
Steering Mast (tube)
Steering Jacket Wedge And Screw
Steering Column Sleeve
Steering Column Mounting Bracket Under Dash
Directional Cable/ Horn Wire Clip On Mast
Turn Signal Metal Ring (with Pawls & Spring)
Directional Plate Screw
Directional Roller
Directional Roller "w-shape" Spring
Directional Cable
Directional Cable Mounting Screw
Directional Handle & ****
Directional Canceling Cam
Directional Switch
Bolts (dir. Switch Mounting) (1 Pr)
Upper Steering Bearing/horn Contact
AM Wonderbar Radio
Radio Lens- "wonderbar" (with Numbers)
Radio **** (push On)(AM Radio Only)
Dash Name Plates (with A/C too)
Radio Side Panel Left side 63 only
Clock unit using Stainless Steel Cone
Black door *****
the Ignition Keys were different, did not say Briggs Statton
Rear window trim
13 piece carpet
Insulation & Plugs under dashboard (with Heater)(L & R) Before Jan, changed after Jan.
Luggage Metal Stop
Pinchwelt- look for correct Width & Grain
Roadster- Pinchwelt Cap With Bolt & Nut
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (2 Hole)(LH)(til May 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (2 Hole)(RH)(til May 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (1 Hole)(LH)(june 63)
Coupe Pinchwelt Cap (1 Hole)(RH)(june 63)
Pinch Welt Cap Screw & Barrel Nut (roadster)
Coupe Rear Quarter Trim Panel Supports & Rivets
Upper Rear Window Vinyl Trim Strips
Exterior
Raised Door pads under door handles
Cookie Sheets
Rocker Panels
Felt whiskers in the doors in the window area
Long based side mirror, to include bracket, screws, gasket, and set screw
Polished Windshield Wipers
Hood (indents were made shallower in 64)
Rear window Stainless Steel Trim
Fiber Glass Headlight Buckets
Headlight assembly
Screw Set-headlight Bezel (4 Short,4 Long 63E
04-17D Screw Set-headlight Bezel (8 Pc) 63L
Lamp Asm LH Outer (not T-3)
04-21B Lamp Asm RH Outer (not T-3)
04-21C Lamp Asm LH Inner (not T-3)
Spare Tire Tub/Carrier
Spare Tire Carrier Support Brace
Tire Lock Bolt Bracket
Tire Lock Bolt
Hardware fasteners (Bolts) used on the Spare Tire Tub
Lock for the Spare Tire Rubber cover for the spare tire lock
Gas Cap Cover, Fuel Filler Roller Door roller type June 63 or the after May 63, the slide
Rear Fuel Tank Hose & 2 Clamps
Fuel Tank Suppor
Split Window
Parking Light Assembly (wires and rubber boots)
Parking light bulb (only fit the 63)
Grill Bracket U-nuts(for Sheet Metal Screws)
Grill U-nut (for Sheet Metal Screw)(10 Pc)
Suspension
Non Webbed spindles
Rear Spring Assemblies (turned up corners)
Emergency Brake Assembly
Steel Wheels
Wheel Covers (first 200 frosted, remainder chromed)
Rear exhaust bezels (two types used in 63)
Exhaust hangers and hardware
Rivets on the upper A Arms
Misc Hardware
Rear Deck Lock Gaskets- Rubber (Conv)
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A nice list.
I didn’t see exhaust tip heat shields but I may have missed it.
Also the bumper brackets are thicker in 63; 1/2" vs the later 3/8"
Early cars also had painted (not vinyl covered) dash frame "waterfalls" and "toolbox" depressions under the seats...
I didn’t see exhaust tip heat shields but I may have missed it.
Also the bumper brackets are thicker in 63; 1/2" vs the later 3/8"
Early cars also had painted (not vinyl covered) dash frame "waterfalls" and "toolbox" depressions under the seats...
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 11-29-2018 at 06:41 AM.
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