Help with a carb date
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Racer
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From: Gilroy CA
Help with a carb date
I might have found a carb for my 67 w/A.I.R. The book calls for a R3814 and I might have found one but need help decifering the number.
3814 dated 753, what does the 753 tell me?
As always, thanks in advance for your help......
:)
3814 dated 753, what does the 753 tell me?
As always, thanks in advance for your help......
:)
Melting Slicks
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From: The Garden Spot of the Garden State
Re: Help with a carb date (polyrocks)
...SO, polyrocks...lemme get this straight...you went from no midyear directly to "purist" :D ....didn't pass "Go", didn't collect $200.....OK, OK, i'll let up for the time being
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Racer
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From: Gilroy CA
Re: Help with a carb date (Kid_Again)
Kid Again,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The car I finally settled on is very close to original (Same owner for the last 18 years) This guy kept everything down to the old timing chain. Anyway, knowing more about the numbers game I thought I would check on an original carb before I replaced the one giving me troubles. Thanks for keeping me grounded as I have yet to locate my date coded lug nuts. :D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The car I finally settled on is very close to original (Same owner for the last 18 years) This guy kept everything down to the old timing chain. Anyway, knowing more about the numbers game I thought I would check on an original carb before I replaced the one giving me troubles. Thanks for keeping me grounded as I have yet to locate my date coded lug nuts. :D
Melting Slicks
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From: The Garden Spot of the Garden State
Re: Help with a carb date (DZVette)
...polyrocks...so where's the carb????...GOD forbid your new baby roams around too long with the wrong dated carb :D
...tell you what, send mail to either me or theOman, we'll go down into the cellar (looks like that warehouse in the last scene of "Raiders of the Lost Ark") and we'll come back with ANY date code you need...if you don't like our choice, we'll restamp (er, scratch that) find one you will like :D :D
...tell you what, send mail to either me or theOman, we'll go down into the cellar (looks like that warehouse in the last scene of "Raiders of the Lost Ark") and we'll come back with ANY date code you need...if you don't like our choice, we'll restamp (er, scratch that) find one you will like :D :D
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Racer
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From: Gilroy CA
Re: Help with a carb date (Kid_Again)
Ok,
So here is the real question...Can I buy a new carb for my A.I.R. 327/350 and have it stamped to pass NCRS judging? If so how much? Since I need a new carb why spend money on an non-original if I can find an original for a fair price. I have found a correct replacement for 250 but don't believe the dates are correct for my mfg date. Anyone know what the correct lead time is for a carb by NCRS standards. The one I have found would have practically had to be made in the Chevy factory to be installed on my car :)
So here is the real question...Can I buy a new carb for my A.I.R. 327/350 and have it stamped to pass NCRS judging? If so how much? Since I need a new carb why spend money on an non-original if I can find an original for a fair price. I have found a correct replacement for 250 but don't believe the dates are correct for my mfg date. Anyone know what the correct lead time is for a carb by NCRS standards. The one I have found would have practically had to be made in the Chevy factory to be installed on my car :)
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Re: Help with a carb date (polyrocks)
I don't know of any way to "re-stamp" the air horn info on a Holley, or get rid of the existing stamped part number/list number/date code. Judging also includes the stamped I.D. on the metering block. Jerry Luck can build you a 100%-correct 3814, but they're not cheap ($550-$600), and the wait is 3-4 months (he's VERY busy). NCRS allows dated components up to 6 months prior to the car's assembly date, but 2-6 weeks is more typical for carbs.
There are 40 originality and 20 condition points allocated to the carburetor on 67's, and only 20% (8 points) of the originality points are allocated to the date; if it's otherwise correct, you'd only lose 8 points on originality and would still get the full 20 condition points, using the 3814 you found.
[Modified by JohnZ, 12:48 PM 11/8/2002]
There are 40 originality and 20 condition points allocated to the carburetor on 67's, and only 20% (8 points) of the originality points are allocated to the date; if it's otherwise correct, you'd only lose 8 points on originality and would still get the full 20 condition points, using the 3814 you found.
[Modified by JohnZ, 12:48 PM 11/8/2002]
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Racer
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From: Gilroy CA
Re: Help with a carb date (JohnZ)
John,
Thank you for the post, that was the exact information I was looking for :cheers: Can you give me more information about Jerry Luck.... I'm getting some healthy razzing from Kid_Again but I think I would like to start the collection of authentic parts as the car is almost totally correct. I don't plan on getting rid of it and would like to get it back to stock with the exception of the blue interior which I prefer to leave black.
Thanks again!
Thank you for the post, that was the exact information I was looking for :cheers: Can you give me more information about Jerry Luck.... I'm getting some healthy razzing from Kid_Again but I think I would like to start the collection of authentic parts as the car is almost totally correct. I don't plan on getting rid of it and would like to get it back to stock with the exception of the blue interior which I prefer to leave black.
Thanks again!
Melting Slicks
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From: The Garden Spot of the Garden State
Re: Help with a carb date (JL66REDCPE)
you NCRS-types keep this forum interesting....i look at the mountain of carbs quietly rusting at carlisle and walk on by, you guys spend all day looking for a number...oh PUHLEEZE :yesnod:
