[C2] Numbers match vin but not suffix
07-03-2019, 08:16 AM
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Numbers match vin but not suffix
Recently purchased 65’ 327. Was told numbers match to 350 hp. The last 6 do match vin. The last two letters though are not listed in the black book HD. Has factory air and 4 speed. The D looks like it was a O possibly which would be 250 hp with ac and power glide. I know I need to check 4 speed #’s. Any suggestions? Maybe some one re stamped?
07-03-2019, 08:30 AM
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HD code is a 1965 Chevy impala with a powerglide. As far as the Vin number is concerned the numerals are not very level making it very suspect as being a re-stamp. And most impala engines came with no Vin on the pad giving someone a blank pad. The other number on the pad is probably when someone rebuilt the engine you see a lot of engine builders stamping a date or there code into it.
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07-03-2019, 08:49 AM
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Recently purchased 65’ 327. Was told numbers match to 350 hp. The last 6 do match vin. The last two letters though are not listed in the black book HD. Has factory air and 4 speed. The D looks like it was a O possibly which would be 250 hp with ac and power glide. I know I need to check 4 speed #’s. Any suggestions? Maybe some one re stamped?
I would look for the block casting date and see how it relates to your car's build date before jumping to any conclusions. But I do believe it was a HO suffix before it was an HD.
It does look like someone was trying to test stamp a Q on the block above the engine stamp. That would be 327/250 with A/C and automatic.The HO they went with would just be a 327/250 with an automatic.
Good luck... GUSTO
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07-03-2019, 08:53 AM
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The one picture the balancer sure looks to be a low horse 6” and not the SHP 8” the 350hp got. And that’s not a good sign
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07-03-2019, 08:55 AM
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I hate to say it after that trim tag fiasco thread, but that's one hinky-lookin stamp pad.
I hope that the seller didn't advertise the car as numbers matching. Please no.
Begging your pardon, but I failed to say "welcome to the forum and hope you like it here."
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I hope that the seller didn't advertise the car as numbers matching. Please no.
Begging your pardon, but I failed to say "welcome to the forum and hope you like it here."
Kevin
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07-03-2019, 08:57 AM
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It looks like Ray Charles stamped it with his feet...
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07-03-2019, 09:10 AM
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I agree on the balancer application for a 300HP engine for some car. All the stamping sure looks like a test bed for a new GM line worker. 
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07-03-2019, 09:12 AM
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Where does the red line start on your tach? Not proof but could be a clue.
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07-03-2019, 09:45 AM
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07-03-2019, 12:56 PM
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thanks Everyone. Block 3782870 head 3782461
Mmm
I hate to say it after that trim tag fiasco thread, but that's one hinky-lookin stamp pad.
I hope that the seller didn't advertise the car as numbers matching. Please no.
Begging your pardon, but I failed to say "welcome to the forum and hope you like it here."
Air looks factory with teak wheel. Not sure how to read block and head numbers. Numbers or not worth 40k right?
any help with block and head #’s greatly appreciated
Kevin
I hope that the seller didn't advertise the car as numbers matching. Please no.
Begging your pardon, but I failed to say "welcome to the forum and hope you like it here."
Air looks factory with teak wheel. Not sure how to read block and head numbers. Numbers or not worth 40k right?
any help with block and head #’s greatly appreciated
Kevin
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07-03-2019, 03:20 PM
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Regardless of numbers if the vin tag is good and you got a clear title it’s worth north of 40k all day long and night.
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07-03-2019, 07:01 PM
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very nice looking car, it appears to have nice gaps and paint, , have fun with it
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