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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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as part of the general mission creep with operation "Try To Stop the Oil Leaks" it looks like i need to replace the 6 1/8" balancer. the vulcanized rubber is squishing out between the rings and seems soft. also, an OP has taken a BFH to it at some point and really beat the crap out of it. the motor is a replacement for the original '67 327/300hp with a CE prefix and a '68 casting date. the end of the crank is threaded and has a retaining bolt. from researching here and over at the ncrs board it seems some were pressed on and some used the retaining bolt. the number on the balancer has a bolt hole through it and reads: 3883??5, maybe 3883955? and the date code is 1 or I 6 F. so sept. '66? the car has a body build date of 11/66 so i guess
that makes sense if the parts from the original engine were swapped over to the replacement motor. one thread mentions that the bolt on style balancers interference fit is not as tight as the pressed on style. how do i distinguish when ordering a replacement? any suggestions or part numbers?
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All 300 HP balancers were pressed on for C2 cars. Go to Damper Dudes or Damper Doctor for a original rebuilt replacement. Paragon and others also have service replacements. One or both places should have part numbers as well.

If you absolutely require part numbers, we can get this from the parts books for you. But I think you can find it yourself.

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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 01:21 PM
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larry, i probably didn't word that as well as i could have. post #5 in this thread is what i was referring to:
https://www.ncrs.org/forums/showthre...light=balancer
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larry, i probably didn't word that as well as i could have. post #5 in this thread is what i was referring to:
https://www.ncrs.org/forums/showthre...light=balancer

Joe L was wrong on this one. No 66-67 300 HP had this bolt. Even JohnZ agrees in your NCRS link.

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Originally Posted by 3154tm
the motor is a replacement for the original '67 327/300hp with a CE prefix and a '68 casting date.
A 68 CE block DOES have the center crank bolt. The 68 CE was the best of the bunch in 327's IMO had all the latest revisions.
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dan, very interesting, and the pad stamp decodes as 1969. the PO said the motor was replace under warranty but didn't remember what year. so not later than '72? also, someone on the ncrs board said that when motor assemblies left flint they didn't have balancers, that they were installed on the line at st. louis. with the '66 date code this balancer might be from the original motor. so larry, if i understand you correctly, none of this makes any difference? would any non shp 327 balancer work? thanks again guys?
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dan, very interesting, and the pad stamp decodes as 1969. the PO said the motor was replace under warranty but didn't remember what year. so not later than '72? also, someone on the ncrs board said that when motor assemblies left flint they didn't have balancers, that they were installed on the line at st. louis. with the '66 date code this balancer might be from the original motor. so larry, if i understand you correctly, none of this makes any difference? would any non shp 327 balancer work? thanks again guys?
They had dampers when assembled at the Flint/Tonawanda factories. Maybe he/she was referring to the pulleys attached to the dampers.

Probably any non-shp (base engine) damper would work for you, but I would try to get one specified for your year and type of engine.

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dan, very interesting, and the pad stamp decodes as 1969. the PO said the motor was replace under warranty but didn't remember what year. so not later than '72? also, someone on the ncrs board said that when motor assemblies left flint they didn't have balancers, that they were installed on the line at st. louis. with the '66 date code this balancer might be from the original motor. so larry, if i understand you correctly, none of this makes any difference? would any non shp 327 balancer work? thanks again guys?
I had a wear groove in my original balancer (which is the same as what I think you have) and ordered a replacement from Damper Dudes look up part #PB1012N it is an exact replacement of the 3/4 inch original. I subsequently decided to use a sleeve on the original balancer which has worked out well (4 years now and no leaks) and would also be a good alternative depending on what's wrong with yours.
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Dale MFG in Oregon repaired a harmonic balancer for me. They seemed to do a good job.
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Originally Posted by Pilot Dan
I had a wear groove in my original balancer (which is the same as what I think you have) and ordered a replacement from Damper Dudes look up part #PB1012N it is an exact replacement of the 3/4 inch original. I subsequently decided to use a sleeve on the original balancer which has worked out well (4 years now and no leaks) and would also be a good alternative depending on what's wrong with yours.
Yep, Speedy Sleeves have been around since at least the 60s.
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i wish a speedy sleeve was all it needed, they work great and are easy to install. just did
both ends of a ford 302 roller motor, at the rear seal and balancer. now no leaks.
thanks for all the great info guys. i'm going to take Powershift's advice and call it what it
appears to be when i talk to the balancer vendors, a 1968 327/300 hp L75.
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