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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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My '60 basic 283 has a PerTronix ignition. The other day, I took the car out. It backfired a few times then died and wouldn't restart. While waiting for the flat bed (30 minutes) I tried starting it and it ran well. I took it out once more later in the day and the same thing happened. It died only to restart about 30 minutes later. I diagnosed a bad coil. Bought a new one and the car ran great. That was 2 days ago. Went to start it tonight and it won't start. I attached a spark tester to a plug wire and there is no spark. Do I replace the PerTronix ignition or go in some other direction?
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:39 PM
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First try running a jumper wire from the + battery terminal to the + side of the ignition coil and see if the car starts..
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:40 PM
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Sorry, I just can't help myself!
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:50 PM
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Still no spark jumping positive batt to positive coil.
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Mike is getting ready to tell you to swap out that whiz bang electronic gizmo and reinstall points - worth a shot.
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 06:59 PM
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Not a chance. I c an't remember where my dwell meter is. How can I tell if the PerTronix is working beside installing a new one?
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bud
Not a chance. I c an't remember where my dwell meter is. How can I tell if the PerTronix is working beside installing a new one?
That's the main issue, you can't. you could put a set of points in and see if it now runs well. Your best hope with a pertronix is find there's no voltage going to it, but there's no internal troubleshooting
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 07:18 PM
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the electronic module in the distributor has probably gone bad. i had one do the same thing. replaced the module and all good.
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Originally Posted by Captain Bud
Not a chance. I c an't remember where my dwell meter is. How can I tell if the PerTronix is working beside installing a new one?

Put a test light on the negative side of the coil (distributor side) and crank the engine. The test light should flash on/off/on/off/on brightly. If it doesn't, look at the p tronix.

That's assuming your test light will light up on the + side of the coil while cranking.
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Mike, with ignition switch on, I should be getting 12V to the positive side of the coil, I'm not. Jumping from + batt to + coil still no start.
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Originally Posted by Captain Bud
Mike, with ignition switch on, I should be getting 12V to the positive side of the coil, I'm not. Jumping from + batt to + coil still no start.
Well, sounds like you're problem is upstream of the distributor. Put a jumper from the battery to the + side of the coil, crank the engine and see if the test light flashes and/or the engine starts.
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Originally Posted by Captain Bud
Mike, with ignition switch on, I should be getting 12V to the positive side of the coil, I'm not. Jumping from + batt to + coil still no start.
In post 4 you write "Still no spark jumping positive batt to positive coil."

You can put a set of points in without setting dwell sufficient for it to run and rule the Pertronix in or out. Check your wiring. You have a ballast resistor on here?

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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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Yes, there is a balast resister. I can try and jump that and see if it starts.
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Go t a known 12 volt source first. That resistor isn't even in the "start" circuit.

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Originally Posted by Captain Bud
Yes, there is a balast resister. I can try and jump that and see if it starts.
Does your model of Pertronix need a ballast resistor?
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Mike is getting ready to tell you to swap out that whiz bang electronic gizmo and reinstall points - worth a shot.
I'm with Mike. I just replaced the points on my 67 and I'm good for another 20 years.
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Old Sep 18, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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The balast resistor was in the car when I bought it 5 years ago and the car's been running fine up till now.
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I'm with Mike. I just replaced the points on my 67 and I'm good for another 20 years.
I put my last set of Delco D112P points in the distributor in 1996. Car fires on the first turn of the key.

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Update. I'm getting a good spark from the coil to the distributor. Voltage into the ballast resister is 11.75V, out of the resistor 5.5V. Seems low to me. So, since I'm getting a good spark out of the coil to the distributor, where do I look now?
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