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Old Jan 3, 2020 | 10:31 AM
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I am pleased to enter in this nice family.
I am buying a C2 1966 and I am searching information.
Can you please help me?
I would like to know the history of this vehicle.
I would like to know for example if it was a real 427 ci when it was sold from the factory.

The VIN is 194376S116149

I thank you for all your coments and help
Best regards
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The vin tells you nothing but the make, model, coupe or convertible, that it is a V8 and when and the date it was built. To know more you must investigate the car as a whole and look for clues. Now if it’s been restored all the clues could be removed, added or left there. The trim tag beside the vin tag will tell us more
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The vin # will not help. It only denotes coupe or convertible and the order in which it was built (serial number, sort of). You have very little way to be sure without documentation such as build sheet or POP card. There are clues but none which cannot be faked.
Welcome, and one tip. There must be a thousand threads with the subject "need help". If you explain with what in your subject, you'll get help from those interested in that subject, plus you can search for it later easier.
You can try "google" and enter the vin and see if any past posts or news items or for sales come up anywhere in the world. You can also Google "verifying a 66 corvette 427 engine" or such and get a lot of information on some of those clues.
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The vin tells you nothing but the make, model, coupe or convertible, that it is a V8 and when and the date it was built. To know more you must investigate the car as a whole and look for clues. Now if it’s been restored all the clues could be removed, added or left there. The trim tag beside the vin tag will tell us more
There is information on the trim tag, like colors and body build date, but I can't think of any help determining if it was a real 427.
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Any options can be added or deleted on these cars when they are restored. It takes someone very knowledgeable in how these cars were built to examine them and determine what is original and what is not. It cannot be done with a search on the internet.

Join NCRS and maybe you can get some information or a person near the car to help you.

if you post some pictures we can also give you advice.
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The VIN could help if you do a deep search online and see if it has been listed as a small block somewhere or some other information is uncovered.

Outside of examination of the car and associated guesswork, if you have any sort of document trail which includes not only original sales paperwork but also history of registration or insurance, you can use that to contact prior ownership and possibly get information that way. People used to do DMV title histories in the old days, but most US states have dried that up due to privacy concerns.

One example: after months of online VIN searches I was able to track down the original purchaser of my ‘63, who wound up giving me all sorts of original paperwork and documents for the car he still had. It’s worth the effort. Good luck.
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Here is the car

https://www.catawiki.com/l/32862831-...o-reserve-1966
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Originally Posted by Aurel
Dear all
I am pleased to enter in this nice family.
I am buying a C2 1966 and I am searching information.
Can you please help me?
I would like to know the history of this vehicle.
I would like to know for example if it was a real 427 ci when it was sold from the factory.

The VIN is 194376S116149

I thank you for all your coments and help
Best regards
Aurel


Here are a few pics from the link provided

Its hard to tell but the tach looks like a low rpm redline
It has rear sway bar
If its the original engine there have been modifications
5 speed
very very red and plenty of over spray under the car
wrong radio
no mention of the engine numbers in the "inspection"
AC added
Fiberglass rear spring
AO smith body so not original side pipe car

The car may have started out with a BB but there is not much of it or the other original equipment remaining.

Phil








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If you follow that link provided you'll see it was listed as a 300 horsepower in the header, yet 427 so one or the other is wrong

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First you need to start with the basics of what block is in the car by the casting number and date. Then look at the stamp pad to see what’s on there. Also the drivers side head is a pre 67 BB head. So that is a good start.
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Here is the same car sold in Ephraim, Utah in August. Seller states it was an original 327 car.

http://www.usedcarsfsbo.com/asp/Item...=8%2F13%2F2019


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You have to love the power of the internet
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Originally Posted by Hermn59
Here is the same car sold in Ephraim, Utah in August. Seller states it was an original 327 car.

http://www.usedcarsfsbo.com/asp/Item...=8%2F13%2F2019

Good morning

I thank you all for your help.

On the previous announce in august the Utah seller said it was an original 327 but he said also he did not know the previous owners....so may be he is wrong.
I hope he is wrong cause if not i will be very dissapointed.

Is there here someone members of NCRS to check ?

What do you think of the price? If it is a real 427 ? Or if it is an original 327 ?

thks a lot
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Originally Posted by Aurel
Good morning

I thank you all for your help.

On the previous announce in august the Utah seller said it was an original 327 but he said also he did not know the previous owners....so may be he is wrong.
I hope he is wrong cause if not i will be very dissapointed.

Is there here someone members of NCRS to check ?

What do you think of the price? If it is a real 427 ? Or if it is an original 327 ?

thks a lot
Aurel

Hi Aurel,

Congratulations on your purchase, and welcome to the forum

Did you have the car professionally inspected before you purchased it?

The value is really about overall condition and originality, not just being a big block car, and beside that, the engine does not appear to be original (which is where the value starts). If your happy with the price you paid - that's all that matters, the money is spent.

Here are some previous posts from forum members with the same questions you asked to determine if its a real big block car.

Phil

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ification.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...block-car.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...big-block.html

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Sure hope you did not buy the car thinking it was an original BB car.
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Originally Posted by 856666
Hi Aurel,

Congratulations on your purchase, and welcome to the forum

Did you have the car professionally inspected before you purchased it?

The value is really about overall condition and originality, not just being a big block car, and beside that, the engine does not appear to be original (which is where the value starts). If your happy with the price you paid - that's all that matters, the money is spent.

Here are some previous posts from forum members with the same questions you asked to determine if its a real big block car.

Phil

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ification.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...block-car.html

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...big-block.html
Hi Phil
thks a lot for your answer and for the 3 links.
actually i only paid a small deposit in an web auction. I won the auction and i am wondering if i go at the end.
I was sure it was a BB due to several cloues, but i am understanding after reading every coments that everything can be transformed in a previous restoration.
I would see the car next week but i won t be able to disassemble the car or the engine, that s why i hoped someone has an access to the register with the info.
Thks
Aurel

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There is no mythical registry that holds all the answers your seeking. The price is fair for what it is as long as the frame and bird cage is rust free. If the car has a real 66 427 block that is closely dated to the car then you can feel a little better about it.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
There is no mythical registry that holds all the answers your seeking. The price is fair for what it is as long as the frame and bird cage is rust free.
If the car has a real 66 427 block that is closely dated to the car then you can feel a little better about it.


I agree and a professional should inspect the car before completing the purchase.
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I agree and a professional should inspect the car before completing the purchase.
There was an expertise for the auction, please send pictures below



























Thks a lot !



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