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there is a lot to unpack. First, I'm to believe that Strange Inheritance tv show is an authority on mid year corvettes? No thank you. 2nd, it's a bump, or a pimple, or a papule, or mole, but it's not a dimple. third, all you guys with mid years that don't have it, get busy and add it, or turn your String Ray back in to wherever or whomever you bought it, and get a refund. If you do decide to add it, make it small and flat, and get the location right. Not like some of the examples shown in this thread. I've judged some mid years that had the mole nearly as large as a pencil eraser. Sorry Charlie. Wrong! OK, I'm done here.
I'm with Don, these TV shows say or do anything to spice things up, I mean anything. They don't care about accuracy in the least. I know girl who was a receptionist at company that was involved in such a show. She was pretty hot, and the guys were not, so she ended up one of the principle video interests, then the star...
Well, maybe it was an accident. Something could have damaged one side of the mold. I seriously doubt anyone would think it a priority to fix it in any case.
Yeah, possibly, but we've been led to believe that they added the damage back after repairing it once...
there is a lot to unpack. First, I'm to believe that Strange Inheritance tv show is an authority on mid year corvettes? No thank you.
It was not the 'show' that explained the dimple, it was a person named David Boroughs, who is supposed to be an authority on old Corvettes.
… this led David Burroughs, who is an expert in vehicle authentication, to discover that a handful of 1967 Stingrays was made without the dimple under the hood. This discovery made Litavsky's Stingray —in near mint condition— even more rare.
Litavsky had to have the car's authenticity verified. Many 1967 Corvette Stingrays lose value if they've been restored and had a small dimple under the hood sanded out. Litavsky's car hadn't been restored, but it didn't have the signature dimple,
Follow the money.
Why would anyone sand out a flyspeck in a hood drain trough? To make it totally disappear and make it level, you'd have to work at it, not just take a few swipes with sandpaper.
Replacement hood surround panels from GM, at least after about 1972, were a little bit different than originals. The pimple was no longer in the trough. It's also easy to tell the difference from later hood surrounds and originals. For one, the trough, or gutter is a bit wider than originals. I can lay my thumb in the trough and if it touches both the vertical part of the fender and the edge of the lip, it was original. If there was a 1/16", or maybe 1/8" gap, it was a replacement surround panel. Also, the underside of the trough between the firewall and fender skirt on originals was sand (gravel) blasted. It didn't have to be as it wasn't to be bonded to anything but the blasting process just continued all of the way down past the skirts. That process really tore up the glass and it's easy to feel it with your fingers. If it's smooth, it's most likely a new fender or hood surround.
There are also other ways to tell if it's original.
From: Middle TN by way of KY, OH, VA, IL, CA, FL, NY, SC, HI
Originally Posted by Dan J
I thought the AO Smith bodies did not have the pimple, just St. Louis bodies.
My AOSmith '65 has the papule.
Okay, on further review, I'm about fatigued out with all this pimple/dot/papule crap, sorry. I admire originality etc., but this level of hand wringing is bordering on lunacy to me.
Yes, your mileage may vary, and I acknowledge and appreciate that, but just damn!
Will we next be carbon-14 dating our gas in an attempt to ensure that our gas tank contents are original to the dates our cars were built? Just how many gallons did Chevy put in the tanks prior to shipping?
Last edited by Easy Rhino; Jun 5, 2020 at 06:43 PM.
Since they spelled Sting Ray incorrect all hope is lost of him being a expert
David Burroughs is the founder and retired CEO of Bloomington Gold. He was responsible for pioneering Gold Certification judging, a process of evaluating a car’s level of accuracy compared to the day it left the factory. The Gold Certification judging procedures became the benchmark for judging of all types of automobiles. Today, Burroughs is considered to be one of the world’s experts in determining the metrics used to measure the originality or non-originality of collectible vehicles.
I'm pretty sure there are at least three people who have commented in this thread already who know as much or more about C2 Corvettes as Dave Burroughs (or anyone else, for that matter) ever dreamed of knowing. No disrespect whatsoever, for Dave intended, I'm sure he's very knowledgable.
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Last edited by Vettrocious; Jun 5, 2020 at 07:12 PM.
Okay, on further review, I'm about fatigued out with all this pimple/dot/papule crap, sorry. I admire originality etc., but this level of hand wringing is bordering on lunacy to me.
Yes, your mileage may vary, and I acknowledge and appreciate that, but just damn!
Will we next be carbon-14 dating our gas in an attempt to ensure that our gas tank contents are original to the dates our cars were built? Just how many gallons did Chevy put in the tanks prior to shipping?
Ha! Good point. BTW, where can I buy a can of 1965 air to put in my tires?
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From: Middle TN by way of KY, OH, VA, IL, CA, FL, NY, SC, HI
Originally Posted by RonJ-in-VA
Ha! Good point. BTW, where can I buy a can of 1965 air to put in my tires?
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I think that we should should start a business to recapture 1965 air from Antartica ice to refill old tires. But it has to be saved for those who can prove that their tires were on the car when it left St. Louis.
I thought the AO Smith bodies did not have the pimple, just St. Louis bodies.
ALL midyear assembly-line upper surround panels had the "pimple" in the drain trough; there was only one steam-heated (steel) mold, at MFG in Ashtabula, and that plant fed the Body Shops at both St. Louis and A.O. Smith-Ionia. They both got the same panel from the same mold at MFG.
Photo below shows the high-tech resin measurement/dispensing operation at MFG while preparing the midyear upper surround mold for closure.
ALL midyear assembly-line upper surround panels had the "pimple" in the drain trough; there was only one steam-heated (steel) mold, at MFG in Ashtabula, and that plant fed the Body Shops at both St. Louis and A.O. Smith-Ionia. They both got the same panel from the same mold at MFG.
Photo below shows the high-tech resin measurement/dispensing operation at MFG while preparing the midyear upper surround mold for closure.
Oh crap, you revealed the secret! It can only be viewed under intense magnification. NCRS judges confirm it during judging using their magic broachbuster.
OK, now I'm really done here.
