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I received the Borgeson kit to add PS to my 64. I did some research and read about the past difficulties others may have had with this and it mainly dealt with alignment and pulley issues. I'm hoping the alignment is not a problem, we'll just deal with it if it comes. The kit now comes with a single groove pulley, pn 3770509. Looks like they listened and stopped sending the double groove pulley as they didn't work for all installations. I'm going to order a new double groove crankshaft pulley from Corvette Central part number 303210, the add on pulley was another alignment issue with most installations. As far as PS belt layout I'm assuming a stock belt for PS will work. Unless anyone can think of anything else it looks to be a fairly straight forward install.
My 64 327/300 needed a slightly different length belt when I finished. I’m not sure if using the Borgeson pump mounting bracket rather than OEM was the problem or not. I measured the needed length and got a belt from NAPA. I had bought the original belt but returned it.
I used the add on crank pulley with no alignment problems.
I bought the added frame reinforcement bracket that fits over the frame as well.
Last edited by dkleather; May 17, 2021 at 09:58 AM.
My 64 327/300 needed a slightly different length belt when I finished. I’m not sure if using the Borgeson pump mounting bracket rather than OEM was the problem or not. I measured the needed length and got a belt from NAPA. I had bought the original belt but returned it.
I used the add on crank pulley with no alignment problems.
I bought the added frame reinforcement bracket that fits over the frame as well.
Where did you get the reinforcement bracket? Is that necessary or does it provide some latitude for adjustment? Thanks
Borgeson has the reinforcement bracket, it's about $75. Unless you are going to be racing or antocrossing I doubt you need it. For normal driving you will be fine.
Borgeson has the reinforcement bracket, it's about $75. Unless you are going to be racing or antocrossing I doubt you need it. For normal driving you will be fine.
The unit will twist some w/o the bracket. Does not hurt anything that I could tell. You will probably find out that the unit causes the steering to be way to sensitive (meaning very very easy to turn). If so the pressure reducing kit will stiff it up. Borg has these kits. For more info you can do a search. there are lots of posts about this problem.
The unit will twist some w/o the bracket. Does not hurt anything that I could tell. You will probably find out that the unit causes the steering to be way to sensitive (meaning very very easy to turn). If so the pressure reducing kit will stiff it up. Borg has these kits. For more info you can do a search. there are lots of posts about this problem.
Seems like the Borgeson PS is far from perfect and with very few options available they've still captured the market. I've read about alignment issues, no reimbursement for parts that don't work, wrong parts provided, tech support etc. Add sensitive steering to that list. I'll have to see for myself once it gets installed and I try it out.
I disagree that it’s overly sensitive. The box actually has progressive boost - very little at center, increasing the more you turn. Alignment issues - not for me. It allowed for increased caster which improved steering return and tracking.
The negative comments are not consistent with my experience at all!
dkleather, does the NAPA belt look original or did it have the grooves on the outside like a lot of the aftermarket units? Not a big deal as long as things work but it would be nice for the belts to match.
I disagree that it’s overly sensitive. The box actually has progressive boost - very little at center, increasing the more you turn. Alignment issues - not for me. It allowed for increased caster which improved steering return and tracking.
The negative comments are not consistent with my experience at all!
Good to know, I guess the ones that aren't happy are the most vocal. I'm looking forward to getting it installed.
I have Borgeson boxes on both my ‘64 and ‘69. I also do not find it overly sensitive, in fact at speed the road feel is about perfect. Both of mine use the outer position of the steering arm which helps.
[QUOTE=75SHARK;1603467769]dkleather, does the NAPA belt look original or did it have the grooves on the outside like a lot of the aftermarket units? Not a big deal as long as things work but it would be nice for the belts to match.
Trying to install borgeson steering box on my 67 small block the brake line interferes with the corner of the steering box. Has anyone had this problem with a c2? I could cut 1/2 in off flared end and re-flare but I can’t do a double inverted flare. Would a regular flare work with the brass divider fitting? I got the brake line from corvette central in 1994
I ran into that. I ended up making a new line and bought the double flare bits for my flaring tool. They weren’t that expensive. I would have liked to put the bend closer to the brass block but needed the room for my bender and flare tool.
Trying to install borgeson steering box on my 67 small block the brake line interferes with the corner of the steering box. Has anyone had this problem with a c2? I could cut 1/2 in off flared end and re-flare but I can’t do a double inverted flare. Would a regular flare work with the brass divider fitting? I got the brake line from corvette central in 1994
It will work fine right up to the time when the brake line SPLITS OPEN.
Always double flare brake lines! There are no exceptions.
Seems like the Borgeson PS is far from perfect and with very few options available they've still captured the market. I've read about alignment issues, no reimbursement for parts that don't work, wrong parts provided, tech support etc. Add sensitive steering to that list. I'll have to see for myself once it gets installed and I try it out.
Just like Glenn/Tuxnharley, I've had none of these issues with the Borgeson unit, which I've had for 10+ years and run in hundreds of autocross's (without a reinforcing plate). It's the single best mod you can do to a Sting Ray. I really love that it reduces the lock to lock steering from 3.5 to 2.25 turns and also eliminates the dead spot in the center of OEM steering. You can always go with rack and pinion steering if you dislike the Borgeson box.
Borgeson PS installation
