C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

engine from Ecklers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 01:38 PM
  #1  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default engine from Ecklers

i'm looking for an alternative to rebuilding my original L79, does anybody have experience with this engine from ecklers?
https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/chev...-340098-1.html
TY
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 01:50 PM
  #2  
vetsvette2002's Avatar
vetsvette2002
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Marine Corps
Loved
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,489
Likes: 501
From: Willowbrook IL
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16
Default

For the work involved of removing and installing and storage or scrap it the original, I personally would have my original rebuilt/restored. Their choice of camshaft is very limited, no description of pistons.
it also costs less to rebuild and restore the original 350 hp than to install a 250-300 hp.
I like my L79 as a genuine L79 with its hp, rpms, idle lump, and exhaust notes,

your money, your choices.

Don
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:03 PM
  #3  
Audiophobe's Avatar
Audiophobe
Drifting
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 247
From: CT
Default

Originally Posted by vetsvette2002
For the work involved of removing and installing and storage or scrap it the original, I personally would have my original rebuilt/restored.
it also costs less to rebuild and restore the original 350 hp than to install a 250-300 hp.

No brainer (to me).
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:20 PM
  #4  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default

it;s just that my mechanic quoted be 10k for a rebuild.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:29 PM
  #5  
Vega$Vette's Avatar
Vega$Vette
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10,179
Likes: 2,306
From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Default

Originally Posted by xsray
it;s just that my mechanic quoted be 10k for a rebuild.
Yep Cheaper to do a crate with warranty than rebuilding.

I would personally not buy from Ecklers

I would go with something like this for about $1000 less and a 50,000 mile warranty

https://blueprintengines.com/product...ads-roller-cam
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:30 PM
  #6  
Audiophobe's Avatar
Audiophobe
Drifting
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 247
From: CT
Default

Does $10k sound high though?
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:37 PM
  #7  
Nowhere Man's Avatar
Nowhere Man
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 53,985
Likes: 9,352
From: Sitting in his Nowhere land Hanover Pa
2024 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2015 C2 of Year Finalist
Default

Depends how much extra work his mechanic is going to do
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:39 PM
  #8  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default

thanks, that's what i'm looking for. will my intake and exhaust manifolds fit with this?
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:45 PM
  #9  
Nowhere Man's Avatar
Nowhere Man
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 53,985
Likes: 9,352
From: Sitting in his Nowhere land Hanover Pa
2024 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2015 C2 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by xsray
thanks, that's what i'm looking for. will my intake and exhaust manifolds fit with this?
find a new shop and have your born with engine rebuilt to OEM specs and forget about anything else
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:49 PM
  #10  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
find a new shop and have your born with engine rebuilt to OEM specs and forget about anything else
yes, I should shop around, I would rather have my original in her. I remember how well she ran 28 years ago, like me, she's a little tired now.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 02:55 PM
  #11  
silver837's Avatar
silver837
Le Mans Master
Supporting Gold
Veteran: Army
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 5,099
Likes: 1,598
From: Nor- Cal
Default

I think 10 grand sounds high. Does this include R &R ? What is he going to do . Is there a detailed list of parts and labor costs ?
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 03:02 PM
  #12  
Tampa Jerry's Avatar
Tampa Jerry
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,512
Likes: 1,946
From: Temple Terrace Florida
Default

If you are going to rebuild the original engine, make very sure the machine shop does not deck the block and remove the numbers on the stamp pad. I have heard that some shops can deck the block and save the numbers. Get it in writing and make sure the guy running the milling machine knows what you are talking about. Good luck. Jerry
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 03:11 PM
  #13  
Audiophobe's Avatar
Audiophobe
Drifting
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 247
From: CT
Default

Originally Posted by xsray
yes, I should shop around, I would rather have my original in her. I remember how well she ran 28 years ago, like me, she's a little tired now.
Yes.
You'd rather have the original and so would you're car value.
I bet you could do allot better than $10k.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 03:15 PM
  #14  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default

Originally Posted by silver837
I think 10 grand sounds high. Does this include R &R ? What is he going to do . Is there a detailed list of parts and labor costs ?
No details, I think he is just trying to feel me out to see if I'm willing to go with that. Yes R/R and new clutch. install.
He's always been a bit pricey, but very satisfied with previous work.

I'm going to contact a couple of clubs around here and get their input on good machine shops. I can remove and reinstall myself.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 03:41 PM
  #15  
drainbrain's Avatar
drainbrain
Racer
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 339
Likes: 244
Default

Geeez and they plumbers make money!
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 03:59 PM
  #16  
GTR1999's Avatar
GTR1999
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 15,135
Likes: 3,939
From: Connecticut, USA
Default

I suggest you stop and collect your thoughts on the car, what you want from it and then proceed to do a lot of homework, otherwise you are going to go down a steep, slipper, slope. I have been repairing the work of Corvette "experts" for most of my life and I have been around long enough to see scammers multiply with the start of the internet. It used to be just the local crooks taking the local newcomers' money, now they take it without providing any service at all.

If you can do the work and just need guidance that is the best approach. If you can't, for whatever reason, then you will be paying a lot and may not get what you think you're paying for. Original matching cars are still more valuable than crate engineer cars, finding a trustworthy mechanic or machinist is the larger issue. They're out there still but just not in the numbers that once were. $10k for a 60's Chevy engine in non-Drag Race application is too much. If it was a special production build that's different. I bet you're paying mostly hidden labor costs. Drag engines cost more than that and some of those are not so good, and I am speaking from past and present experience.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 04:15 PM
  #17  
xsray's Avatar
xsray
Thread Starter
Instructor
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 240
Likes: 3
From: Mt. Prospect Il
Default

thanks, i needed that reality check, i will take some time to think about what I really want out of this.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To engine from Ecklers

Old Nov 14, 2022 | 04:22 PM
  #18  
Avispa's Avatar
Avispa
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,191
Likes: 950
From: Corpus Christi, TX
Default

Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
Yep Cheaper to do a crate with warranty than rebuilding.

I would personally not buy from Ecklers

I would go with something like this for about $1000 less and a 50,000 mile warranty

https://blueprintengines.com/product...ads-roller-cam
This is a sensible approach if you're going to keep the car and drive it a lot. You can certainly keep your original engine in storage for the time at which you sell the car, if you ever do. Having a non-original motor in the car isn't going to hurt the car's value at all if you still have the original. If you don't like Blueprint Engines, there are plenty of other rebuilders. A huge benefit to taking the replacement engine approach and storing the original is that you remove any risk of blowing up the original, or the rebuild going haywire. Yes, the risk of that is tiny, but it's not zero. The market places such a premium on original engines in these cars that when you risk-adjust the car's value, it doesn't make sense to rebuild the original. Just store it. If you like the sound and performance of an L79 like vetsvette, then build an L79 spec small block.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 06:11 PM
  #19  
Bluestripe67's Avatar
Bluestripe67
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Active Streak: 120 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,326
Likes: 2,702
From: Close to DC
C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020
Default

As suggested, slow the roll! I agree that the price, without details does seem high, but you can enlighten us later. If you pursue rebuild, find three machine shops and visit each. Look for organization, how clean each is, will they explain the use of equipment. Some shops have "Clean rooms" for engine assembly. I followed this process in the mid '80's. Avispa has a valid point about storing the original and going with a Blueprint engine of your choice. Dennis
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2022 | 08:12 PM
  #20  
GTR1999's Avatar
GTR1999
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 15,135
Likes: 3,939
From: Connecticut, USA
Default

Good point on visiting several shops if possible. See what they look like and how they present themselves. A good machinist is probably booked out months, a hack may tell you a couple of weeks. I have some stories from over the years. Many of the places around here are out of business, either they couldn't compete with the internet's cheapo prices and work, or they were outright crooks. Many in this area had drug or alcohol issues as well, some would "lose" your parts.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:01 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE