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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 07:46 PM
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Is there a good first guess as to what is causing erratic, irregular, now and then missing/coughing/hesitation? My 110,000 mile 1964 0riginal L76 has been running like it was brand new for the past two years then suddenly I get sporadic hesitation? It really seems like water in gas and I hope that is all it is. However if it's mechanical, do I look at spark or fuel?

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Is there a good first guess as to what is causing erratic, irregular, now and then missing/coughing/hesitation? My 110,000 mile 1964 0riginal L76 has been running like it was brand new for the past two years then suddenly I get sporadic hesitation? It really seems like water in gas and I hope that is all it is. However if it's mechanical, do I look at spark or fuel?

Thanks, Craig
I think I'd start with the bulkhead electrical connectors which are known to work loose, corrode and cause sudden and related electrical system failure. Troubleshoot from there to ignition; switch, coil, points, wires, cap, rotor, ballast, any of which can be involved. In my experience intermittence is more likely electrical than fuel system on a stock vehicle.

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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 08:10 PM
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Always run clean fuel. Put a additive
in, if you think you have bad fuel.
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I would pull both valve covers and look
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I think I'd start with the bulkhead electrical connectors which are known to work loose, corrode and cause sudden and related electrical system failure. Troubleshoot from there to ignition; switch, coil, points, wires, cap, rotor, ballast, any of which can be involved. In my experience intermittence is more likely electrical than fuel system on a stock vehicle.

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Could be you're on the right trail. I did have "red wire syndrome" about 4 times or so and I put in a new Engine wiring harness but did not change the under dash wiring harness so one half of the bulkhead connector is older. I'll pull it apart and take a closer look.
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Always run clean fuel. Put a additive
in, if you think you have bad fuel.
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That's a good point. I'll get something in the tank for moisture tomorrow.
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I would pull both valve covers and look
Look specifically for what?
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Look specifically for what?
make sure all the rockers are where they should be
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Is the miss more noticable on ecceleration? Something very simple to check is your ignition coil....

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
make sure all the rockers are where they should be
If something was wrong and one was turned, it would be more of a constant miss, not once in a while as OP says. Personally I'd put your suggestion a little farther down the list, and see if the problem was located before we got that far down.
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Like other have said above, sounds ignition related or possibly bad fuel. For starters, check for moisture in the fuel tank and weak spark. Trace ignition power wire from Ign. Sw. to the coil and also ground side thru breaker plate. Not sure on Chevy but, most GM cars; the resistance wire for the coil power runs from the Ign. Sw. thru the firewall connector to the coil, whereas sometimes the resistance wire starts at the firewall or bulkhead connector. So if you just replaced wiring from after the firewall connector, it possible the wiring on the other side (interior side) could be suspect, namely the Ign. wire.
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Originally Posted by 1Hotrodz
Like other have said above, sounds ignition related or possibly bad fuel. For starters, check for moisture in the fuel tank and weak spark. Trace ignition power wire from Ign. Sw. to the coil and also ground side thru breaker plate. Not sure on Chevy but, most GM cars; the resistance wire for the coil power runs from the Ign. Sw. thru the firewall connector to the coil, whereas sometimes the resistance wire starts at the firewall or bulkhead connector. So if you just replaced wiring from after the firewall connector, it possible the wiring on the other side (interior side) could be suspect, namely the Ign. wire.

not on Corvettes. they used a ballast resister.
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not on Corvettes. they used a ballast resister.
Did not know that; thanks for clearing that up. So where is this ballast Res. located?
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Originally Posted by 1Hotrodz
Did not know that; thanks for clearing that up. So where is this ballast Res. located?
on the drivers side firewall beside the master cylinder and wiper motor all but 64-67 TI cars are that way
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Originally Posted by 64DreamMachine
Is there a good first guess as to what is causing erratic, irregular, now and then missing/coughing/hesitation? My 110,000 mile 1964 0riginal L76 has been running like it was brand new for the past two years then suddenly I get sporadic hesitation? It really seems like water in gas and I hope that is all it is. However if it's mechanical, do I look at spark or fuel?

Thanks, Craig
I had a sporadic miss, very slight pop thru the carb on my 65 L76 developed out of no where found the vac hose split on the underside of it I never would of saw it from looking at the top of it, something made me twist the hose around & found a split in it I quest that’s the side that see’s all the heat from the engine. I would verify all the basics (vacuum leaks, check carb base gasket also, spray a little carb cleaner at it etc.) first before I start pulling anything apart .

You could pop the fuel cap off & with a good flashlight see how the fuel looks? Never forget a long time ago changing out a electric fuel pump on a classic BMW after removing the pump under the back seat fuel tank access panel & looked down into the tank found remnants of water/rust very obvious by visual inspection..
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How old are the wires cap/rotor ignition items??
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on the drivers side firewall beside the master cylinder and wiper motor all but 64-67 TI cars are that way
Thanks Nowhere Man! Still learning new stuff everyday.
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Originally Posted by dcamick
Is the miss more noticable on ecceleration? Something very simple to check is your ignition coil....
No, I notice it most at low RPM, parking lot travel. Come in off the road and slow to find a parking place and get hesitation.
Coil and condenser are new.
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Check the cap and rotor. For cracks , wear and carbon trails.

If yours has a ballast resistor check the output voltage and see if it varies a lot.
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Originally Posted by 64DreamMachine
No, I notice it most at low RPM, parking lot travel. Come in off the road and slow to find a parking place and get hesitation.
Coil and condenser are new.
just because its new doesn't mean its any good
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How old are the wires cap/rotor ignition items??
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Plug wires 1000 miles old. Cap/rotor/points unknown. Will check these as I go down the list of suspects.
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